I understand you mods don't have an easy job here, but why is it that everytime an actual good debate comes along and there is intense but constructive argument it gets locked?

This has happened way more times than I can count but I didn't decide to make a thread about it until I got locked out of todays new intercooler thread. These are the threads that guide the future market place of EvoM, because real back to back testing is taking place.

If people were writing things that they are not allowed to then why not just delete their post and warn them instead of closing the entire debate?

This community has two sides; buyers and sellers. Sometimes the parties don't agree and a debate needs to take place, hours after this commences the entire movement/debate/thread is shut down. I must have read hundreds of pages of bickering about ebay i/c vs. the world and there is always only speculation. This forum is flooded with ebay vs. all threads. When the one good thread comes along with real testing you must assume there will be argumentation during the process of analyzing the results to form conclusions about what said test has really proved.

Instead we have to deal with another boatload of threads filled with merely speculation.

I want to know as a contributing member of the community exactly why this thread was shut down so I can understand how I could possibly help stop these threads from being shut down.


Im sure I will catch an earful from someone, but this forum seems to be much more like a dictatorship than a democracy. I understand it is privately owned and the moderators can do as they please but without the buyers/consumers there would be no market, therefore there would be no sellers and thus there would be nothing to talk about.

 

what the hell do you think you are trying to change things, u fool!!


jp


+1 threads shouldn't be locked or closed, the same arguement will just continue in another thread

 

Is there a particular thread (or threads) you're thinking of? It might help us to see some examples of what you consider to be constructive.

And, as you partially noted, this site is not a democracy. We have something like 50000 users, and we need to consider all those members, not just the small percentage who want the site to be their personal *****ing/arguing forum.

 

The thread you are opining about is open. I closed it to review the comment cycle, address reported post and tidy up the thread. Please also understand that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN A PRIVATELY OWNED AND OPERATED FORUM. If you believe that members should have unfettered freedom of speech without equal responsibility for its use, then the Evom forums are not for them.

The moderator's apply the rules of the site to each thread and post. Our decisions are arbitrary, sometimes inconsistent, but unbiased and as fair as we can make them. Thanks.

Speedlimit..

 

There was a misunderstanding then. I thought the thread was permanently closed.

Like I said, I don't disagree with the rules and even breifly mentioned the new warning system. Someone needs to "take out the trash" and I appriciate that. I also understand that this isn't a democracy and the mods can do what they please and most of the mods I have dealt with have been pretty cool.

 

Short answer - we don't close/remove "intense but constructive argument." We remove the pointless and unconstructive arguing.

 

While this issue may now be moot as the thread was not closed, don't be so sure that you may block any type of speech. As this site is public in many ways and deals continually with commerce, it is implicated in several ways, constitutionally speaking.

 

The sites privately owned... they can essentially do what they want, which includes deleting our threads and limiting what we post. As stated above of course. I'm a moderator on a privately owned forum that has a no censorship rule, there is so much flaming and arguing that it gets to the point where we're loosing members, granted i quit that position.. haha

The moderators on this thread do a really good job at controlling situations for the most part.

 

The constitutionality of applying terms of use in a private forum with commerce goes well beyond the moderator's pay grade here. I would be more than happy to discuss the effects of delayed neutrons on the fission process if you want. We apply the rules as fairly as possible without discrimination. Beyond that, the guys that get $350 an hour can figure it out.

Speedlimit..

 

You agreed to our terms and conditions when you signed up for your login. The owner and admins set the rules, and the users can either follow them or find another sandbox. It's really that simple.

I believe the OP's question was answered sufficiently by Speedlimit. Thread closed.