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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Dyno Page Section

We need a section devoted to dyno plots. Sure would make it easy to do research.

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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Are you aware of this?

https://www.evolutionm.net/registry/dynos.php
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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That's nice but I have 2 issues.

1. It is not in the most accesible area of EVOM, I'm sure many don't know it exists.

2. There's no room for discussion, It would be nice to have an area where people could post up their dynosheets and discuss. Maybe a sub topic of Engine/Turbo/drivetrain.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by zbomb
That's nice but I have 2 issues.

1. It is not in the most accesible area of EVOM, I'm sure many don't know it exists.

2. There's no room for discussion, It would be nice to have an area where people could post up their dynosheets and discuss. Maybe a sub topic of Engine/Turbo/drivetrain.
I agree. I doubt very many even know the section exist based on the few dyno sheets posted. I subsection under E/T/D or it's own Dyno Section would be better and I guaranty it will be more visited and more graphs posted than the current page.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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thats just going to be a 500 post thread that will still be impossible to find info....

I never knew about that link and i've been whoring on here for 2 years lol
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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thats just going to be a 500 post thread that will still be impossible to find info....

I never knew about that link and i've been whoring on here for 2 years lol
Not a single thread, but a separate section. Each thread would be a different car/ dyno sheet. You'd have some basic guidelines with what is in the title so that you could easily scroll through and find what you looking for. It would be much better than the current set up.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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if no one uses the other portions of the site all ready dedicated to the dyno sheets why do you think anyone will post in a subforum? how many dynograph discussions are there in evo general that are less than 2 months old? anyone can say that they want a section added, try and find evidence that one is needed so the admin can review it from an admin standpoint. if you show a need then I am sure they will take it into consideration, but without documentation showing a need the site is pretty extensive as it is.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Dan, I don't think it's the site users duty to find evidence that a new section is needed. It is up to the users to request and let the admins decide whether or not it is warranted. I have a hard time believing that if you were in the market for lets say a turbo upgrade that a section devoted to dyno graphs and discussions about them would not be extremely helpful. Search GT35R and how many graphs do you find, I think you would see about a hundred...Does a 35R spool too late, Do you like your 35R, and so on. Dyno graphs are a important factor in deciding upgrade paths for most, It would be nice if they were centralized in a location that is frequented more than https://www.evolutionm.net/registry/dynos.php .
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DangerousDan
if no one uses the other portions of the site all ready dedicated to the dyno sheets why do you think anyone will post in a subforum? how many dynograph discussions are there in evo general that are less than 2 months old? anyone can say that they want a section added, try and find evidence that one is needed so the admin can review it from an admin standpoint. if you show a need then I am sure they will take it into consideration, but without documentation showing a need the site is pretty extensive as it is.
No one uses the other section because I'm sure like me, very few even know it exist. I've been around a while, over a year before I even bothered to sign up, and I had no idea it existed.

If you wonder if people will use it, look at some of the most active/ popular threads, HTA results, Paul's testing the manifolds, the Full Race Twin Scroll results. These would all be perfect for the dyno thread section. Further more, check out the Pruven Power Section on NASIOC, a similar idea, and note how active the section is.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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hey, I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I'm just telling you how things work in the real world. the admin decided they would add the NOS section this year because it was requested. they were dissappointed when there wasn't much use because they spent time adding it to the forum, not to mention that it costs them money to do these things. I'm telling you that if you show the need they will be much more likely to consider it. Also, maybe more people will post in here, but right now there are two of you asking for this since Dec 8. that's not a very high number considering the membership of the site.

If you don't want advice I can bug off, but I'm trying to tell you how things work in the real world. It's not the admins job to research every little request on this forum, and I doubt after reading speedlimits response that they are doing so right now. It's your job, as the user who desires this forum, to show the need for it. Either that or start a thread and start gathering the data for a sticky; there are many types of Lancers this forum is designed to accomodate and that means your dyno section may not pertain to another car, so IMO something like this would be better served in a sticky in the appropriate models subforum.

With as little need as you have demonstrated, and the fact that this site already has a section devoted to this (albeit an underutilized one, although that kind of shows you how much this forum is needed/desired by the masses) I would imagine this thread will eventually fall to the bottom of the page, and then to page two, and so forth.

I'm not admin here, and have nothing to gain or lose in this matter, but if you want something you should be prepared to work for it. I was, and the subsection(s) I requested was added. good luck getting this section added, I am sure you two will use it even if no one else does
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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I guess we have you to thank Dan for making them less responsive. Not sure why you think we needed a NOS Section, but I guess it obvious now we don't. Thanks for the help, but with your track record, I'll pass.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Thanks everyone for your input. We'll take a look at it.

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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by robertrinaustin
I guess we have you to thank Dan for making them less responsive. Not sure why you think we needed a NOS Section, but I guess it obvious now we don't. Thanks for the help, but with your track record, I'll pass.
He was just pointing out a fact. We occasionally try new ideas and they fail. That's all he said.

I agree with Dan - if no one could find a dyno list that has been on the site for like 5 years, why do we assume you'll suddenly start using the new section? And like 4 Wheel Slide hinted, I think the forum would be a trainwreck. It'll be tons of arguing and reported posts and people getting banned for flaming and vendor bashing, etc.

But as Speedlimit said, we will look into it.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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My suggestion is taking all those threads people are already posting with dyno runs and given them a common area to be posted. These are some of the most popular threads on EVOm. Look on the first page of EVO Engine/ Turbo/ Drivetrain page and look at all the threads with the highest views, they are nearly all threads about power with dyno sheets. It's even more obvious when you rank them based on views per hour. The most active threads are all about dyno results. Take a look for yourself.

I'd put it in the EVO section just under General.

Though I like the Dyno Registry and think it's well done, I doubt 1 in 10 people on here even know it exist. The other problem is it is more involved to post results than just starting a new thread.

Ultimately, I feel my suggestion will improve the website. It's born out of frustration and observation. Frustration with trying to find dyno sheets and observing that many of the most popular threads on the site are about the same. If you don't agree, then by all means don't bother.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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Hi,

The decision to add forums is not us versus them. We want the best possible format to meet the needs of the members. We are cautious when adding forums because many times they are not used and it dilutes the ability to find stuff. And creates more work for the staff moving posts/threads to the correct forum. It is easy to add a forum but a PIA to merge it after a decision to remove it.

Where would the forum be located? A separate forum or sub-forum? I'll ask the moderator's for their input. Thanks.

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