There are a handful of vendors that are not allowed a personal account. I don't remember why but our personal account was required to be disabled in order to open our vendor account in 2005. For example davidbuschur wouldn't have a personal account, its one in the same as his business account.

My personal account was disabled to create this one.

CWill@ASAP account appears to have transferred over to a business account from CWill.

Then you have a vendor employee with no vendor screen name at all such as crispeed.

Then you have E Vol IX who is also Force-Fed Performance with a personal and vendor screen name.

I am not sure the rhyme or reason for the inconsistency.

 

You can't say Adolf!

 

I did it

 

Well put

 

The economy has nothing to do with Evom so I'd have to disagree with you there. If you feel mods were a "10" at that time it was purely coincidence. We are volunteers so why you think the economy would have anything to do with us is beyond me.

IB makes all sponsoring decisions so it's not like we were in a crunch to bring on vendors or anything. We have no say in that at all.

 

I was just kidding about the economy thing, you took it to heart ...I wonder what cop Chaotichoax is? He does drive an Evo so that shaves off a minimum of 3 points. So you start off at a 7 lol

 

I like the discussion about editing of posts. I think there have issues with edited posts long before I was a member and even more so recently.

Do we all honestly believe that a 5 minute buffer is enough to stop someone from going back and editing their post? My guess is that as soon as those 5 minutes are up, that person will go and make the change. The only way to catch them is for someone to quote their post. But, that's not very different than how it works today.

So, what about completely eliminating editing of posts? 100% solves the issue of someone going back and editing something they shouldn't have said (bashing, flaming, lies, deceit, etc). And if you made an honest mistake in a post, just write a new post with correct information.

If members and vendors were aware they could not go back and edit their posts to cover their tracks, everyone would be more aware of what they are posting and would be more careful before they his "submit."

Thoughts?

 

i meant that they can only edit it for 5 minutes.... after that, it stays.

lol, i just edited, which is why i think we need it.....

Sometimes you forget to type something, sometimes you misspell something or leave out a word. I think if you have 5 minutes to enter the editing process to correct what you said.... that is enough time. After the 5 minutes, like prego.... its in there

 

Other than for spelling I say forget the editing of posts....Man up and stand behind your word. If your mouth gets you into trouble....accept the consequences or GTFO.

In conjunction with that....if a pissing contest gets started...let it play out then the mods can make their decision. If anything the read will be entertaining.

I guess me starting this thread was a good thing. Many people are interested in "change"...See what Our Big A$$ Mistake America is doing to our country.

 

The editing of posts is handy, the more I thought about the more I'm not sure. There are a lot of times I have a thread going where I add more information to the first post. That happens a LOT in the ECU flash section too. So making a post not editable sounds great but in some cases it is going to cause for problems. I've gone back and added dyno sheets or like for the DSM/EVO Shootout, the main post is constantly being edited once it is posted for more information etc.

So there is a down side, even though I am the who suggested it. I guess in those cases where something good needs to be added for information a mod could be contacted to let it happen.

I've got another change that would be nice. Everytime you edit your signature every single post you've ever made gets the signature changed. I've spent a lot of time making a lot of people fast who then later change their signatures to represent whatever it is they like. Why can't a signature change only effect the posts you are making from that day on?

Probably be best to put more thought into the time limit for editing. I know I make typo's when I get typing fast and many times proof read it after posting or someone else tells me I screwed up, nice to fix that stuff too. Double edged sword.

 

:thum bup: and a +1!

 

I had recieved a very laughable infraction from the moderators here. I had posted a thread in the UTEC forum saying goodbye to utec thanking everyone in that forum for their help and what not, and that I was putting it up for sale and linked the for sale ad in that thread. This for sale ad was in the for sale section as it should. At this time, I had about 200 posts.

Next thing I know, I get a pm from one of the mods notifying me of an infraction for posting a for sale ad in an inappropriate form to skirt the 50 post count rule and BOTH threads were deleted. I reposted the ad, and subsequently sold it.

Prior to me doing this, other people had posted similar threads in the UTEC forum and theirs did not get deleted. I went back to that forum thinking the others got tagged too, and lo and behold theirs were still there. Does this not sound arbitrary?

I see threads in the advanced forum that have no business being there never move, and threads that do get deleted or moved to the general threads. I've seen multiple instances of vendor bashing that frankly is deplorable, and yet they're allowed to continue unchecked to show us how our "vendors conduct themselves"?? Did I quote that right?

My friend's avatar of a girl in a bikini was "too provacative" and was removed and he was given an infraction , yet I see others that are of damn near naked women that have been long-standing. Am I going to point any out? No that's your guy's job, not mine. That, and I like looking at them.

My point being, there is no set standard for moderating, and the rules no matter how clearly they are written are in fact arbitrary. This statement I hold true based on what I have both seen and experienced.

I'll be honest here, I haven't really posted or frequented here much in a very long time because of this nonsense. If it wasn't for the classified section and the vendor classifieds, I would not maintain my account.

 

I sincerely want to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread. We are reading them and several comments have sparked separate discussions in the staff forum. Plus, I'm still trying to come to terms with the fact the Scott (TTP) and David (Buschur Racing) conversed with each other in this thread "nicely". Thanks.

Bob..

 

Actually, you know what's funny is that I didn't touch that post. And since I didn't notice it until you just mentioned it, TTP's post replying to mine is gone as well. So maybe we can just sit down for a minute and put two and two together and think that perhaps mods did it to cut down on the off-topic chatter? Why would I be scared to say something along the lines of "TTP - I hear you do great work from some friends, might schedule a tune if I go through with getting a Red", and then go back and edit it out?

RED ALERT!!!!!!! That's some HUUUUUUUUGE nutswinging!!!! Honestly man, you should talk your words aloud before posting it.

And no, I'm not their customer yet. I have not been there, I have not met anybody from there, and I have not scheduled an appointment let alone call them up for pricing. So then, if you consider that "sack swinging", I feel terrible for how overburdened you must be.

Considering this might all be edited out, I'm done here. I've given my input and that's that.

 

Babs...are you done with the off-topic banter? Everyone else, done with the off-topic banter?

Just to use this as an example, we could have sent warnings or infractions for all of the off-topic discussion within this thread which is all about enforcement of the rules. But, we haven't. So, we can take your advice and follow the rules to the letter and would have handed out way to many infractions just within this thread. Or, we can choose when it really makes sense to give an infraction and then give them. And right now there's really no reason to give an infraction or warning for the off-topic chatter.