It appears that the moderators on these forums choose when to and when not to enforce the "rules".

Case in point...see rule 5b where "price is required in for sale forums". When is this rule ever inforced?

Over the years the rules have changed and changed again. I've been on here a very long time so I've seen a lot of changes.

What I am asking is that if "rules" are in place then by God enforce them ALL, not just the ones the "moderators" choose to.

 

The Moderators cannot possibly be at all places at once. We take action based upon what we see, but to a greater extent based upon reports by members. There is no possible way we can see every little thing that breaks the rules, we certainly do not choose to ignore issues that are brought to our attention.

 

Rule 5b states that a PRICE is REQUIRED in the For Sale forums. Please go in to any of the vendor sale forums and most of the private sale forums....you will see violations of this "rule" by nearly everyone.

It has been that way for years. Disreguaring the rule? I think so.

Just trying to make my point.

 

The rule is a rather new one, and to repeat what he said, we rely on the users to bring posts/threads to our attention when they need something addressed.

 

What about the rule about "posession" that a person trying to sell a product must have it in their posession and own it?

I ask because most vendors do not carry millions of dollars of inventory, thus they do not have all of their products in their posession at all times. No business would run if this were the case.

Once an offer to buy is made then the vendor aquires the product and make the transaction.

The "rule" would remove nearly every vendor and many individuals from these forums.

 

The point of that rule is to get rid of the people who are selling parts for a "friend."

 

The intent behind that was to prevent scamming or selling for another person.

I think you have.

Obviously we can sit here all day and go back and forth about how our rules are not perfect or our Moderation is not perfect. I've never claimed to be, but we do strive to continually improve the site to give our members an enjoyable and informative experience.

 

Easiest thing to do in this case is just ask the vendor.. Is it there in your hand or are you drop shipping?? It would be impossible for us to edit every thread in for sale as things go in and out of stock every day.. at noon today i had 3 sets of cams and now i dont have any.. I cant go thru and go back and forth with each thread by the minute..

However i do agree about rule enforcement as an issue.. certain mods pick and choose which rules they like to enforce.. I was reporting certain violations to a mod that my customers were being reprimanded for.. The mod said it doesnt work that way.. Your customers must edit their signature and the posts i reported never got addressed with the same supposed violations.. here is an example.. I was told Clickable links to sites that are not sponsors are not allowed..

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/7574925-post6.html

Many of the names in his signature are not board sponsors..


Mike

 

Mike,

You drive home my points. It is IMPOSSIBLE to determine someone's posession of a product, thus the "rules" need to be re-written in a manner than can be enforced properly for every member.

As for the attempt to stop selling for "friends". Why not make the rule...."NO PEDLING YOUR FRIENDS STUFF.....PERIOD!" ? ?

Rules cannot be left up for interpretation. They must be specific and enforced at all levels. I guarantee you that every one of us on these boards have violated the rules. Heck, take a look at the infraction points system for example.

If the Mods have it so bad and the job is so difficult, why do they do it? No one is holding a gun to their heads and making them do it.

The way I look at it....if you are going to do a job as a Mod, be as professional and upstanding as possible. Snide remarks about a persons post is not warranted, nor is it in any way professional. We all know what I am speaking of.

I posted this all to get people to open their eyes to the "rules". Hopefully you all take notice.

Paul

 

In my opinion both of your comments are a bit disingenuous being motivated by personal issues with competitors and/or recent moderator actions. Not seeking improvements to our community.

Am I wrong Paul? May I assume the warning you received earlier today had nothing to do with your conclusion of selective enforcement? Mike, may I assume your comments have nothing to do with one of your threads being trashed today? Or your continued running gun battle with a competitor that generally ends with threads being wrecked and the moderator's efforts to clamped that down?

In any case, we appreciate both your efforts scouring the site for rules violations. Please report them and the moderators will do their best to review and act upon them. We certainly have rules that are probably unenforceable and we will review them. Thank you for pointing them out.

All the best,

Bob..

 

Ill just acknowledge that i read your reply.. Id rather not even respond.. I have no issues directly with you.. its your associates that do not have the same unbiased approach you do that are an issue.. Im still working diligently with IB.. Thanks!!

Mike

 

Yes, my peepee getting stepped on by the EvoM police and giving me a "warning" prompted me to dive deeper into the pathetic set of rules we must abide by in order to converse with the Evolution community.

So upon my reading of the "rules" I discovered extreme bias against who gets rules imposed and enforced upon and who does not. It appears that unless EvoM is the beneficiary of $$ then the rest of us peons can just **** off.

It seems some standards are so high they are double.

 

I know what you mean about that. I've been on here forever too. I tend to ignore threads from vendors with out prices and make inquiries to those that post them.

 

I just decided to read thru the rules more thoroughly as i feel like spending some time being a vigilate moderator and reporting all violations i see.. Speedlimit may i ask you this.. How much could i wager that if a Vendor Posts incorrect information and i reply as stated I am allowed as per rule below.. That i will receive a warning or infraction.. So if another vendor doesnt correct someone you cant expect a less knowledgeable member to chime in can you?? id like to try this myself.. Vendor says " a 35r Turbo is 80mm big " and I know factually they are incorrect and i say "You are Wrong" ill bet i see a PM from a Mod..

12.Flaming will not be tolerated for any reason. Name-calling is not acceptable. Moderator's judgment applies here. "You are wrong" is not a personal attack; "You are an idiot" is.

 

Mike, I'm the lead administrator for this site and responsible for the staff and management. So your issue IS with me. I appreciate your candor and more than happy to continue this via PM's.

Bob..