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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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This will be an awesome event. The RnR sponsered car will defintely one of the top contenders. He's got the power and driving ability.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by metaphysical
Another competitor confirmed! 10!

Dragsport magazine will be there to cover the event!
Its DSPORT now

We will have two EVO's coming out to compete:

XS Engineering EVO8
DSport Mag EVO8

Both will be driven by Robbie Montinola
www.montinola.com

Thanks. See you all out there!!

Robbie
DSport Mag
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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What track are you guys thinking about?
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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****tt... I'm driving to where ever this will be... keep us updated..
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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I may have to alter my vacation to attend this
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Coolguy949
What track are you guys thinking about?
how bout Laguna Seca?

but..

Buttonwillow or Willow Springs would probably be the best bet.. less expensive and close to most of the tuners..
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Laguna Seca is going to be expensive. Especially on a weekend. It's also got a pretty strick noise level restriction which might be an issue with some of these cars. Buttonwillow and Willow Springs is a good track if you like the desert Thunderhill is probably the best track of them all as far as layout goes. It's also good a nice paddock right in the middle of the full track. Sears/Infineon would also be nice but spectating may be a bit tough.

Just my 2c,
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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willow will be the best deal- they are taking care of us on the eoc events and the price is right,,,
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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I think for simplicity it should just be road course and 1/4 mile. If you did it at Streets of Willow Springs for the road course, you could go to LACR (nearby) for the drag strip. Points only for Road Course and 1/4, but you can collect 0-60 and whatever data you want just for grins. The difficulty with assigning points to 0-60 times is that accurate instrumentation is far from cheap and not easy to come by. Braking and skidpad are meaningless since the road course will show everything about how well the car turns and brakes. The drag strip covers the power output. Since people don't race dynos (outside of the Supra world anyway), I don't see how that is even important. The drag strip is the ultimate real world dyno.

Based on my experience with other "shootouts" I think this is the easiest method that provides the most fair and useful outcome:

-Road course, add the fastest 3 lap times together for the total time for that car. This is more accurate than doing one bullet-fast lap in a car that can't hold together long enough to be consistent

-Drag strip, best ET wins, MPH is the tie-breaker like real drag events

-Skip the braking, skidpad and other ancillary garbage. Nobody races on skidpads or dynos

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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Blak94GSX
I think for simplicity.
I don't think many people really know how expensive it can be to throw it all down for that one fast lap, an event that featured each cars top 25 lap times run on that day averaged out to determine the winner would show a more relevant view as to which EVO package is faster and more dependable. If your car does not run long enough to record 25 timed laps in the 5 available run sessions you lose. Spread out over 5 run groups you would just need to complete 5 timed laps a session, any tuner car should run reliably enough for that, right? Bullet speed for one lap is nice, but forcing the teams to set up for longer runs with a realistic boost level for cooling and affordable customer track day use would tell a lot more about who has the best EVO.
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:38 AM
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I agree completely, however it sounds like there are going to be too many cars competing to allow for enough clean lap time to actually get 25 hot laps in. My concern is with traffic, as the event is open to non-race licensed drivers, the passing will need to be restricted a bit for safety, which means you could get stuck behind slow traffic and that would hurt the overall lap times. With 25 laps and 15 cars, it is inevitable that some of those laps will be in slower traffic.
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Blak94GSX
I agree completely, however it sounds like there are going to be too many cars competing to allow for enough clean lap time to actually get 25 hot laps in. My concern is with traffic
Than have a car that is strong enough to run 40 laps to get 25 traffic free fast times in. If you bring a nickel rocket with the fuse lit at 30 psi boost, and it stays lit all day long without a big bang, it will show everybody what a great tuner you are, cause you can run and cool 30 psi for that many laps in 100 degree weather.
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 08:34 AM
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If this thing is to go down anywhere in SoCal, I would suggest someone contact the Evo Owners Club guys to help organize it. They have organized a few track events for the SoCalEvoclub.net members....and they have apparently been great events.

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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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I sent a pm to metaphysical about this- I can get accurate timing at a reasonable price too We got the guy who runs all the Porsche Owners Club competitive events working for us on our EOC events. He has everything ready to go and he does it flawlessly.
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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How do we get on this action?
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