NTEC meeting-- tuesday january 18th
Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
Hey man, being rude to people who's business you want isn't exactly a great approach. It's all friendly sht talking. 

2nd of all I was riding shotgun in the Cobra and both those races were bad ***, and yes the Cobra was spinning the tires in 3rd gear. Big deal.....so what it happens.. blah blah blah. It only goes to show why I love my AWD DSM's more then anything.
I am very impressed with the Silver EVO. No races are really fair if they are off the track as far as I care. Dont even get me started on punch races.
Hell if I had the money I would do the same thing as he has done to his Evo. Don't think im some Domestic loving mullet having chump. Hell I work at a ROTARY shop and I own 3 DSM'S.
I only wish that guy in the black evo had a little longer life cycle on his camera.. I would of love to seen that evo go flying over the R.R. Tracks on video!
-Aaron
Last edited by Gotham Racing; Jan 20, 2005 at 08:52 PM.
Originally Posted by ASTROEVO
Looks like i missed another meeting....Oh well....I fixed my boost issue now.

-Aaron
Last edited by Gotham Racing; Jan 20, 2005 at 09:07 PM.
I'm not complaining about my car. I know its strengths and weaknesses. Every car has them. I was a mechanic for years and worked on alot of different cars. I've driven almost anything you can think of short of a few exotics. I just got a little annoyed when someone said my dyno numbers were false and laughing that a car with that much power lost. That is why I said it made that power on the EAST COAST. Its definately down on power here. That and how you didn't believe I was spinning the tires through 3rd gear. Relisticly its putitng down maybe 470 right now, if that. I need to re-dyno and tweak the tune a bit. A stoc evo is what 3200-3300 lbs? I'm around 3600. The silver gutted evo was probably close to 3000 lbs. If he was putting down anywhere near 400 hp, I would need at least 70hp more to keep up so it seams about right. I remember awhile back some magazine, I think sport compact car took some econobox and got it to run several seconds faster in the 1/4 because they gutted the crap out of it. Kind of reminds me of that
Last edited by Oh Three Cobra; Jan 20, 2005 at 10:02 PM.
Originally Posted by Oh Three Cobra
I mean the windows didn't even go down, and I heard that at one point he had the dash out and the instrument cluster zip tied to the steering column. The cobra isn't light stock. Curb weight is about 3600 lbs. I have full interior, a/c, power steering, spare tire, everything still. I respect any fast car and had alot of fun that night, just don't like people twisiting the facts around.
Umm, I like it when they come up with reasons... I beat you. The end. I personally could careless about what you have or don't have... If you don't like people twisting facts around then why don't you stop coming up with reasons as to why you lost? Yea, if I had this or that I would've won. If my car was lighter by this much I would've won. He only won because of that. Point is I won, you lost.
It's called running what you brung and hope you brung enough.
Psh... Guess that's why I don't own a stang

bryan
Originally Posted by Oh Three Cobra
I remember awhile back some magazine, I think sport compact car took some econobox and got it to run several seconds faster in the 1/4 because they gutted the crap out of it. Kind of reminds me of that

You kinda remind me of the guy that never accepts what reality has hit him with. There is a difference, my car can also turn better than yours...
bryan
Last edited by bryans2k; Jan 20, 2005 at 10:08 PM.
Dude I admited I lost. I'm not making excuses. I'm not saying if I had this or that. I was refering to KevinD's comment on the 2nd page about my dyno numbers.
Originally Posted by KevinD
that mustang must be a fat pig if he can't destroy an EVO with more then 100 less hp. hehe he said he had tire spin through 3rd. right.... i would believe pulling timing thats about it. or his dyno figures are greatly inflated.
If you do the math and take the weight and horsepower of each car and get the power to weight ratio, then there is no reason why you shouldn't have won unless you were a horrible driver or something, and you seamed to be shifting faster than me. I made the comment about how they gutted the car in the magazine because some people don't seam to understand power to weight ratio and the difference it makes. You have a fast car and I can respect that. I'd like to run again some time. Btw if you guys are curious here are my mods:
Magnaflow catback
JLT CAI
Predator
Custom tune by Amazon Racing
Wolfe through-the-floor subs
Billetflow 2.76 and 4 piece idler set
NGK TR6 plugs
496.2 hp @ 6000 rpm
537.4 lb/ft @ 3250 rpm
Still have the stock H-pipe with 4 catalyctic converters and full interior down to the spare tire. I don't think the Evo handles that much better than the cobra. Rememeber this is not the same as your typical solid axle mustang. I have driven several Evos and find they understeer pretty heavily upon corner entry. They are a bit more tossable because of the lower weight, but I find a rear wheel drive car to be more predicatable. That is my opinion based on my driving style. If it matters any, I had a heavily modded 93 rx-7 for 5 years which I road raced and drag raced regularly before my cobra so I knew I was giving up some handling.
Evos are fun. I don't think they look or drive bad. I just didn't like the fact that drivetrains can't handle power. The one I built for a customer had intake, full exhaust, boost controler, computer, and front mount. The clutch failed at less than 20k miles, which is understandable, but why did the transfercase and rear output shaft need replacing as well? The problem with an awd car is the power has no where to go. If you can't spin tires then the clutch will slip. If the clutch can't slip then you break a diff or axle. The you have to spend money on chromoly axles, beefier internals for the trans, better differentials, etc. That or just never launch it. Maybe the evo is meant to be a road race car?
Originally Posted by KevinD
that mustang must be a fat pig if he can't destroy an EVO with more then 100 less hp. hehe he said he had tire spin through 3rd. right.... i would believe pulling timing thats about it. or his dyno figures are greatly inflated.
If you do the math and take the weight and horsepower of each car and get the power to weight ratio, then there is no reason why you shouldn't have won unless you were a horrible driver or something, and you seamed to be shifting faster than me. I made the comment about how they gutted the car in the magazine because some people don't seam to understand power to weight ratio and the difference it makes. You have a fast car and I can respect that. I'd like to run again some time. Btw if you guys are curious here are my mods:
Magnaflow catback
JLT CAI
Predator
Custom tune by Amazon Racing
Wolfe through-the-floor subs
Billetflow 2.76 and 4 piece idler set
NGK TR6 plugs
496.2 hp @ 6000 rpm
537.4 lb/ft @ 3250 rpm
Still have the stock H-pipe with 4 catalyctic converters and full interior down to the spare tire. I don't think the Evo handles that much better than the cobra. Rememeber this is not the same as your typical solid axle mustang. I have driven several Evos and find they understeer pretty heavily upon corner entry. They are a bit more tossable because of the lower weight, but I find a rear wheel drive car to be more predicatable. That is my opinion based on my driving style. If it matters any, I had a heavily modded 93 rx-7 for 5 years which I road raced and drag raced regularly before my cobra so I knew I was giving up some handling.
Evos are fun. I don't think they look or drive bad. I just didn't like the fact that drivetrains can't handle power. The one I built for a customer had intake, full exhaust, boost controler, computer, and front mount. The clutch failed at less than 20k miles, which is understandable, but why did the transfercase and rear output shaft need replacing as well? The problem with an awd car is the power has no where to go. If you can't spin tires then the clutch will slip. If the clutch can't slip then you break a diff or axle. The you have to spend money on chromoly axles, beefier internals for the trans, better differentials, etc. That or just never launch it. Maybe the evo is meant to be a road race car?
Last edited by Oh Three Cobra; Jan 20, 2005 at 11:10 PM.
Originally Posted by Gotham Racing
Here you go.
Shut up now.
Shut up now.
If you are understeering around every corner from the entry, you should work on your driving skills. Try slow in, fast out. Works better.
BlownIncome, stock 03- Cobras dyno 365-400 WHP stock and you can get 500 WHP with 2K in mods. They are HP monsters.
OhThreeCobra, what exactly makes them so heavy?
BlownIncome, stock 03- Cobras dyno 365-400 WHP stock and you can get 500 WHP with 2K in mods. They are HP monsters.
OhThreeCobra, what exactly makes them so heavy?
hey now, there is a key word in the line your quoting from me, i said " i would believe pulling timing thats about it. or his dyno figures are greatly inflated." notice that i said you could be pulling timing OR your dyno figures are inflated. i just found it unrealisitic that a modded cobra (drag strip queen...), could be taken by an EVO (road racing and rally queen) in a straight line with a big HP difference. so obviously your car has the power you claim, but has it been dynoed here? and sense you have the dyno print out, even you claimed you had to retard the timing, and that it wasn't running as quick as you said it did when you dynoed it (which would make your dyno figures inflated from what they actually are here)
and yes the evo is a road race car. i will race you on the road course with my bone stock evo if you like. motorsport ranch sounds like fun to me. i have not been there yet, but i'm certainly willing to go and get some times and put it up against yours. i realize that i am at a disadvantage of about 260 hp (more then double my hp), but i bet the evo will do alright against the cobra. not saying i'm going to win, because if you have as much track time as you claim, you could whoop me regardless of what car your in. but i am saying i would like to race you there, to have a fun time with some cool guys. anyone have a membership willing to get the evo club in with a cobra???
oh, and i never ment to talk ****, i was just amazed the silver evo held you off on the highway pull. and next time i will have a full battery and a spare just in case for my video camera. you guys seemed pretty cool and i'm sure we will meet again
peace!
and yes the evo is a road race car. i will race you on the road course with my bone stock evo if you like. motorsport ranch sounds like fun to me. i have not been there yet, but i'm certainly willing to go and get some times and put it up against yours. i realize that i am at a disadvantage of about 260 hp (more then double my hp), but i bet the evo will do alright against the cobra. not saying i'm going to win, because if you have as much track time as you claim, you could whoop me regardless of what car your in. but i am saying i would like to race you there, to have a fun time with some cool guys. anyone have a membership willing to get the evo club in with a cobra???
oh, and i never ment to talk ****, i was just amazed the silver evo held you off on the highway pull. and next time i will have a full battery and a spare just in case for my video camera. you guys seemed pretty cool and i'm sure we will meet again

peace!
are we allowed to do our own timing though? i know that it is a liability and stuff to have actual endorsed timed events, but if we kind of do it on our own is that alright? additionally we need to look into getting the club in for a day of fun. i know someone said something about going with the porsche club, but i'm certain they wouldn't be happy about people driving for times regardless of who was doing the timing.


