Who killed my 700hp Evo?
I'll let you tell everything so long as it doesn't pertain to direct advertisement of your shop. Would you rather I deleted your post for breaking the rules and not allow you to speak at all?
YEP! That is exactly what i'm saying. News flash... this isn't a 2JZ... they require completely different tuning methods. I'd really hope you'd understand this being that you build SEMA race cars. Hell even a 4B11 and 4G63 require different tuning methods and they are both
evo blocks.
Most shops on these boards do that, yes. They take it upon themselves to live up to the mistake and make it right. That is what separates a quality shop from a poor one. Does that mean if he breaks it 10k miles down the road it's your fault / problem? Nope. Also if you can prove that he abused the car, then yah it's his problem. But from the sounds of it he was taking care of the car. Bottom line is, you offered an engine that would do xyz. Not xyz pop.
Even if he did spend half of that, it's still a lot to spend for NOTHING. You then have the audacity to ask for even more money so he can leave with his car?
YEP! That is exactly what i'm saying. News flash... this isn't a 2JZ... they require completely different tuning methods. I'd really hope you'd understand this being that you build SEMA race cars. Hell even a 4B11 and 4G63 require different tuning methods and they are both
evo blocks. Most shops on these boards do that, yes. They take it upon themselves to live up to the mistake and make it right. That is what separates a quality shop from a poor one. Does that mean if he breaks it 10k miles down the road it's your fault / problem? Nope. Also if you can prove that he abused the car, then yah it's his problem. But from the sounds of it he was taking care of the car. Bottom line is, you offered an engine that would do xyz. Not xyz pop.
Even if he did spend half of that, it's still a lot to spend for NOTHING. You then have the audacity to ask for even more money so he can leave with his car?
The biggest expense he was going to make was a NEW cylinder head.
It would be a different story if we built the engine. We then would warranty the rod, and if our machine shop welded the head, we would fix that for free too.
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Did you have any form of signed paperwork approving them to work on the car originally? And after the incidents mentioned? If you didn't sign anything approving them to work on the car(which this last time I doubt they did) for an additional fee after each incident, you should contact a lawyer as I believe the law is on your side. B/c if the law is as the police told you, I'd be rolling in dough from people whose vehicles I have worked on at the dealership and didn't want to pay the repair charge.
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Hirano Garage. I believe there were only a handful in the US at the time that I got mine. I have personally only seen one other one of them and I believe Hirano is no longer in business (not sure of this last point).
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Sorry folks, I have been extremely busy with work/travel and actually didn't realize that this thread had received any attention. I really appreciate your thoughts. I'll address each question/point that's been raised individually.
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Thanks. And yes, the car is in a different shop. I'll keep the name to myself so as not to create the appearance that this thing is about promoting a different shop.
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Thanks man. I've just now returned to this thread so I will certainly look into that.
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Very true... I guess best I can say is that I believed this was one of the better options out there at the time. And they certainly talk the good talk when they want your business... clearly fooled me.
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get a good shop like, spec ops around NC area, or Buschur racing in Ohio AMS in IL, to build you a 550whp street car and call it a day,,, get omeone that will stand for their work and hat knows what their doing,,, its easy these days to do research to find out who is up in their gae and who is not, usually you will find shops that are up in their game have been around for a while
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Most of below is plain self-evident nonsense so it shouldn't take too much effort to unravel. Welcome to the alternate universe of spin that is batlground.
I have no idea who Justin is and I would know. I assume you're either Dan (owner) or some other benefactor of his but in the end it doesn't matter who you are because facts trump thrash every time.
A rod didn't snap. It overheated to near melting point and you guys till this day have no idea why.
This one is laughable. What you suggest here is simply inconsistent with observable facts. No one believes that the same guy who buys quality, even pricey, parts, engines (AMS/Buschur), clutch (Exedy tripple), tranny (Shep), body parts (Hirano, Voltex, Garage HRS), seats (BRIDE), wheels (Volk Racing) would turn around and reuse old tranny fluid to save $40?
Bottom line is (and Shep concurs), there was virtually no oil in the tranny at the time of the failure. And to any objective observer, this means the most likely explanation is that you forgot to check the tranny fluid before releasing the car and after about 30 miles the tranny overheated and locked up on the highway.
The last instance with m2 ended when the welds on his head that he brought us broke off. Is it my fault that whoever he got the head from can't get enough penetration to make a strong weld?
Another half effort at misleading folks who know better. My heads are Buschur Stage III heads and they were just fine. After Buschur shipped the heads to me you guys (Batlgound) are the only ones that machined them. It therefore follows again that in all likelihood, if what you claim is true, you guys are responsible for the welds. But your claim is false and you guys simply screwed up again.
Not sure how to respond to this last claim.
So now for the other side of the story.
M2 failed to mention that his car was towed to us from another local shop in complete pieces. We were given an assembled shortblock (built by ams) a head, and everything else to make the car run. During break in, a rod snapped. Is that my fault? We did not even touch the rods.
M2 failed to mention that his car was towed to us from another local shop in complete pieces. We were given an assembled shortblock (built by ams) a head, and everything else to make the car run. During break in, a rod snapped. Is that my fault? We did not even touch the rods.
After getting a new shortblock, the car was put back together. Reusing all transmission fluids to save money. I personally pulled the fill plug to make sure there was fluid in the vehicle, and it was full. Either it lost it's viscosity, or it ran low before it came to us. Is it my fault that he wanted to save money and reuse transmission fluid?
Bottom line is (and Shep concurs), there was virtually no oil in the tranny at the time of the failure. And to any objective observer, this means the most likely explanation is that you forgot to check the tranny fluid before releasing the car and after about 30 miles the tranny overheated and locked up on the highway.
The last instance with m2 ended when the welds on his head that he brought us broke off. Is it my fault that whoever he got the head from can't get enough penetration to make a strong weld?
Another half effort at misleading folks who know better. My heads are Buschur Stage III heads and they were just fine. After Buschur shipped the heads to me you guys (Batlgound) are the only ones that machined them. It therefore follows again that in all likelihood, if what you claim is true, you guys are responsible for the welds. But your claim is false and you guys simply screwed up again.
Not sure how to respond to this last claim.