what's up every one , john's car has nos in it.

 

man orlando evo club is not going on any more. so i think, i sould come down for the meet once a month.

 

scooter - my pleasure helping you guys out...sorry i couldn't stay for the last wheel.

prvrt - you da biggest batty bwoy evah

gvr - "get off your high horse" hahahah i had to laugh

Gtlimer - wah gwan rude bwoy...my cell phone mash up so it goes straight to voicemail...i will hit up later!

Mephisto - respec rude bwoy

Doc - breaking 12's is a very nice accomplishment! I am sure with your launching capabilities you can get into the 11's with some more bolt ons!!

Everyone else...respect!

 

Hello All... how's everyone doing?

 

They're funnier when they're not about you, eh?

 

 

Hi to all.
The MR should be here very soon. Prices have been released and that usually means car soon to follow. The cost is way up there! MSRP $35k, - out the door cash $38K, - If I finance, add interest $2-3G = $40,000.+ (I am NOT exaggerating!!!!)

Price alone is doable and not a real surprise for me. However, this led me to read the "Mitsubishi Voiding Warranties" thread since I can't afford to own a $40,000. with no warranty. I am very disturbed by what I read (all 40 pages of it.) I know most people have had little or no problems. But it seems several people have had big problems. One guy Mike blew engine on a STOCK Evo and payed out of pocket $8,000. to fix cause found out he did an autocross.

I am not going to take one or two arbitrary accounts as what IS so I have researched as best as I can and have found out some heavy $hit!!!!:

1. if your cup holder breaks - "no problen sir." If you blow a motor or tranny will then search to see if you autocross.
If they can't find evidence of auto cross they can use a loop hole called "Customer abuse." No evidence needed for that!
Yes there are exceptions - does it make up for those raped?!
Hell no!!

2. Your warranty states that you can go to arbitration in such cases. Mike has been waiting > 2 months for a reply from about doing this - (Ford takes about a week or two to reply says one member here.)

3. I thought at first that it was just that some dealers were just being a$$holes. I have since seen evidence to the contrary now - that corporate are often the ones flaggging cars. I saw one fancy press release by spokes woman Janet Little saying: "we will not deny warranty for entering in occasional autocross event." Lying Bitc*. Ask Mike: "I'm out-of-pocket $7,963 for repairs on a completely stock Evo with 3,070 miles on it. No dialog or coherent answers from Mitsu whatsoever."
Another member complains:
"Keep your one or two regional Evo specialists who are the only ones in the whole city that can authorize warranty work but are never available and always conveniently out of town."
I am not making this stuff up!!!!!! Alot of this is from fellow members. Multiply this by the rest of the US!!!

4. There was a scandal in year 2000 where Japan was covering up defects and sticking it to the customer. They got away with a slap on the wrist. Guess what - they did not change a thing - here we go again:


News from the Associated Press today (14-Jun-2004)
"TOKYO - Police on Monday raided the home of the former president of Mitsubishi Motors Corp., who was arrested last week on suspicion of hiding auto defects." Here's the link to a couple of related articles:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5207688/
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106...43a6026,00.html

5. I believe there is about 50/50 chance will not last as an automaker because repeated deceptions in Japan spilling over here in US, combined with horable financing decisions - giving credit to people with horable credit, plus not so exciting products except for Evo (and to add fuel to the fire has begun to crap on many of the people that are buying their IMAGE car!) In turn, we as enthusiasts influence a much greater # of buyers. This is really bad for

why the warranty denials? because the company has no money. They are making losses. Sales dropped over 50% in Japan and are folowing so in US. 10yr 100,000 mile warranty doesn't mean jack if can't afford to back it up!

Corporate policy is clear, repeated over and over for 30 YEARS, cover up defects to minimize company losses. 2 people got killed in Japan and brought the scandal to the surface AGAIN!

My point is NEEDS to provide excellent seervice and products to survive against the tough competition our here - they are NOT doing it!!! - how can they survive?!
Can I really afford to give $40,000+ over 5 years and I don't know if I will have a company to supply me parts in a few years?! My Evo's resale value would drop to Zero if this happens. has shot themselves in the leg and foot - IN SEVERAL PLACES!!!!) and are bleeding profusely.
Sorry if I sound gloomy like I'm crying "the sky is falling!" but I've read around the forum - 3 members sold their Evo's because of the above!!!!!! Mind you they love their the cars like all of us.
I read 4-5 members vow they will no longer buy the 05 as planned or any product after reading the warranty thread as well as advise anyone they know against it.

I feel like I'm on shaky ground when it comes to . I've had my deposit for the MR down for SIX MONTHS now! I really wanted to buy this car.

I've been on this site way before the first 03 cars got here. I've been a true Evo fan for over 6 years. I'm bitter that has let me and so many others down.

If you don't care about your warranty or availability of parts in the coming years - disregard this rant.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

 

Does this mean you won't be joining us? Not that I blame you, this warranty thing has worried me a bit too. But I'm already an owner and it would be a bigger loss to get rid of it right now. Plus I'm having just way too much fun.

 

Hey John, what happened to "Bottles are for Babies"? Have you begun to suckle? Or is Ashan Lying?? Please John, say it ain't so...

 

Gvr is an attention seeking ...small ***** having...bad breath, loser. Get a life GVr .

 

 

Scott - as you can see from the length of the last post - this has turned into a huge issue for me. I am a wrestling with the decision on a daily basis and honestly I don't know what will happen.

I decided that I would not get the MR based on the above essay, but I have no idea what will happen to me when I see the car in person. I might breakdown and give in. I hope not.

My car and truck have 60,000 miles each and I never had any intention of parting with either. So MR was going to be my 3rd car.

I get deeply moved when I hear EvoM members complaining of loosing their complete warranty for a cold air intake, and giving up because they don't have the will or means to take a giant corp to court.

 

Damn this really does not help anyone who wants to get an evo, including myself........

 

This shiit is sad......REALLY sad......and bad.......

 

well he got the bottle under the back seats so nobody can see, make him take his car apart.