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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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So. My uncle has a set of 19" rims hes willing to give me if they fit my car next summer. There black and chrome and are by some German Brand. (I can't remember what but it has that German Pheonix crest on em) but they Looked Sick on his A4, (Which the lease came up for. He since got an 08 Benz GL500), and assuming they fit (Should as they are a 5 bolt pattern) they'll look awesome. Anywhoo.......I was browsing around on Tire Rack looking at the pricing for 19" tires as The crap I have now (Coopers on back dunlops on front......) is suffice to say crap, and I came across the fact that Tire Rack sold TPMS for like $184 USD + shipping. (Comes to...246.22) This sounds like a pretty decent deal to me If I were to pick up another set.

Now my question is....are these TMPS compatible with our lancers and EVO'S? I may order a set if they are compatible for my winters as I think my Summer TPMS still have a couple of years left in em.

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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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sensors are over rated. They really dont do anything. In some cases they dont even work. I have been down to 25psi and the damn thing didnt go off. Me and Rubberducky were puzzled.

Anyways getting back to your 19's. I would ensure they will work on your lancer. I am doubtful only because Euro vehicles use 5 bolt patterns but mostly in
5x108
5x110
5x112
5x120

What you are looking for is a 5X114.3

Look at the rims and see if you can pull size numbers off of there.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 06:42 AM
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Hmm. Will do.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
sensors are over rated. They really dont do anything. In some cases they dont even work. I have been down to 25psi and the damn thing didnt go off. Me and Rubberducky were puzzled. .
FWIW... Sensors DO do something, annoy the **** out of you when you don't have them. <!> every time start the car.


Also mine seem to work, was down to 29psi and went off. LOL
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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Thats why I was asking. If I want to replace my set (or get another for winter) will the ones off of tirerack work?
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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I'm gonna vote against some off the others above... TPMS sensors are useful. I had a puncture once and I didn't even notice. It was the sensors that made me aware of the situation before it got worse.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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tire rack sells the same sensors as mitsubishi, so they will work, but the wheels will not, Audi has a 5x112 bolt pattern, and mitsubishi 5x114.3 so will not work, unless you get some wheel adapters
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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Ok......SO how much does an adapter run/where do I get em. I should be picking these up for next to nothing, but they look awesome so I still want em.

BTW......Ive been doing some checking.....how much would it run me to get the holes re-bored. I've heard that you can re-boar a 112 to a 114.3. ??

Which would seem to be a better option to me then trying to find an adapter or something called a "wobble bolt" (no idea wth that is)

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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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bump? ^^
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LIVEEVIL
Ok......SO how much does an adapter run/where do I get em. I should be picking these up for next to nothing, but they look awesome so I still want em.

BTW......Ive been doing some checking.....how much would it run me to get the holes re-bored. I've heard that you can re-boar a 112 to a 114.3. ??

Which would seem to be a better option to me then trying to find an adapter or something called a "wobble bolt" (no idea wth that is)

- Not a good idea to re-bore the rims. 114.3 is the hole center diameter. In your case you have to INCREASE it from original 112, but then there are the conical features to each hole that would need to be re-machined. At the end you'll end up with slotted (5 slots) rims and no way to tighten them rims securely (I would not trust this on my car). You will be also heavily relying on center bore (with adaptor) to center you rims.

To answer you sensor question: As far as 2010 models, Lancers' computer can only have 4 sensors "recorded"/paired to. If you plan to have an extra set of sensors on your summer rims, every spring/fall you will have to re-program car's pairing to the sensors. This could be done only at the dealer @ dealers hourly rate. So, it will run you twice a year between 0.5 - 1.0 labour hours at the dealer.

@ evo_soul: My sensors were constantly going off every morning starting mid November of last year when the temperatures dropped down to below +7 ... +5 with a normal air in the tires. After approx 10-15 minutes of driving the tire pressure would build up (tires warmed up) and warning would go away. This kept happening until I have switched for Nitrogen mix in my car's tires at the tire shop I use.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Oksamit
- Not a good idea to re-bore the rims. 114.3 is the hole center diameter. In your case you have to INCREASE it from original 112, but then there are the conical features to each hole that would need to be re-machined. At the end you'll end up with slotted (5 slots) rims and no way to tighten them rims securely (I would not trust this on my car). You will be also heavily relying on center bore (with adaptor) to center you rims.

To answer you sensor question: As far as 2010 models, Lancers' computer can only have 4 sensors "recorded"/paired to. If you plan to have an extra set of sensors on your summer rims, every spring/fall you will have to re-program car's pairing to the sensors. This could be done only at the dealer @ dealers hourly rate. So, it will run you twice a year between 0.5 - 1.0 labour hours at the dealer.

@ evo_soul: My sensors were constantly going off every morning starting mid November of last year when the temperatures dropped down to below +7 ... +5 with a normal air in the tires. After approx 10-15 minutes of driving the tire pressure would build up (tires warmed up) and warning would go away. This kept happening until I have switched for Nitrogen mix in my car's tires at the tire shop I use.
I just woke up so... I'll give a proper response later.. but the bolded is incorrect information.

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the bolt pattern is the distance between these two points:



The hub bore is something else and can vary depending on car. Mitsubishi example 67.1

you can have some sort of wheel spacer style thing that will convert your pattern.. but i wouldn't bother .. 5x114.3 has the best rims out there!

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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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I'm gonna vote against some off the others above... TPMS sensors are useful. I had a puncture once and I didn't even notice. It was the sensors that made me aware of the situation before it got worse.
correct. I think... I was speaking more from my beef with its implementation in the Lancer. Its a locked system that has only 4 banks. I think if it had 8 banks for two sets of sensors I would love the system. In personal situation... I was down to about 25psi and no trip of the sensor. no idea what happened, but hey... no big deal.

I will say you are correct. They are to inform those of the pressure levels in their tires. And in the end its good for the environment. My beef would be that its a government standard technology on all cars made today. But if they had sensors that would tell you actual PSI pressure vs. a trip alarm... I would fall in love with it. I hope someone invents this and puts it standard in their vehicles. For mitsubishi it would be a great GREEN PROGRAM I know EVO guys would like that
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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rain fluid sensor first... then proper TPMS
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
correct. I think... I was speaking more from my beef with its implementation in the Lancer. Its a locked system that has only 4 banks. I think if it had 8 banks for two sets of sensors I would love the system. In personal situation... I was down to about 25psi and no trip of the sensor. no idea what happened, but hey... no big deal.

I will say you are correct. They are to inform those of the pressure levels in their tires. And in the end its good for the environment. My beef would be that its a government standard technology on all cars made today. But if they had sensors that would tell you actual PSI pressure vs. a trip alarm... I would fall in love with it. I hope someone invents this and puts it standard in their vehicles. For mitsubishi it would be a great GREEN PROGRAM I know EVO guys would like that
i think a lot of the more luxury vehicules have actual psi readings from the tpms. i've seen it on a few cars like on a tsx, which i believe to have 8 memory bays (2 sets of tpms) also. mitsu just need to invest more than just the standard requirement on the lancer!
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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Hmm......so a wheel spacer can convert the pattern. Only reason I'm really wanting to do something like this is that I am pretty much getting a set of very nice 19" rims for free. I think they'll look awesome on my black lancer. Considering I need to buy a new set of tires next year anyways I may as well upgrade the rims at the same time. If I can get away with getting these rims for free (or next to free as I would need to get the spacers/adapter things). These are some pretty good rims as my uncle paid I think around 2500 for them.

Speaking of spacers.....I think my uncle was using spacers on his A4. So I think I'll check into what there actual pattern is as there may be a chance that they could be 5x114.3 cause I remember him saying he needed a spacer in order for the rims to fit properly. On that note....where the heck do you see the bolt pattern on the rim? I did a quick look on the stock 18" rims with the GTS but I didn't see any 5x114.3, mind you they are mounted so if the information were on the inside of the rim.....yeah. But anyways.....how much would one of these spacer/converters run me?

As far as TPMS are concerned....theres no way of us "hacking" the ecu is there to support 2 sets? I know that the system is locked but is there a way to bypass it at all? Coming from a computer security stand point...everything has a way around it so I figure there should be away around the number of TPMS sets you can have.

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