I think I'm just going to stick with Race gas when I want that extra power. Have you found out how much you're looking at to get everything fixed?

 

Nope I havent got it all figured out yet. But I thinking about switching to aem ems, 280 cams, 2.3 storker, 35r turbo. So I Just need to figure out pricing. And see how much I can get for my used parts.

I know im selling my utec for 575 shipped with map selector switch and map sensor. The map sensor isnt calibrated though.

--Josh

 

Josh,

I have taken several of those pumps apart and they are supposed to be that way.

What i dont understand is how lean was your tune , because AL tunes for any alcohol failure to save your car and tunes it rich.

tony

 

Yea I just heard that from someone else. So Im trying to get the facts straight from the manufactor. Thanks for your input.

--Josh

 

You can also ask AMS how many motors have blown with their kits as they install them daily . I haven't heard of one yet.

 

Well none of the lines were clogged. I took each and everyone off and checked them. The jet nozzel was clear too. The pump shakes like it pumping but nothing comes out of it.

--Josh

 

The car was rich...WHEN the alky was spraying. The alky was not spraying(even though the controller showed it was)....that is why it was lean. Even if he had some safeguard that switched maps when the alky was not spraying it wouldn't have mattered. The alky controller was showing it was spraying so it would not have switched maps.

Keith

 

Thank you for adding more usefull info to this thread... you have really been a huge help.


Keith

 

man, that sucks.

Im a lucky victim of alky kit failure. I felt my car yank timing the other day when i punched it, checked the alky kit and it was spraying very low pressure on test(around 20psi)...i too had my wideband out of the car because i was rewiring it. i guess the little bit of alky that was still being sprayed saved me.

 

yah, the tune is sooo rich at that point that its almost pointless to even be running alky injection. Most tuners are more concerned with someone blowing something up on their tune, than actually giving a good tune. People should understand the dangers with using an alky kit and tuners should tune them to run strong when on alky....not a damn 10:1 a/f so when the alky kit dies, you still have a 12:1 ratio/

 

Josh -- I like how you zip tied the cam gears with the belt so the timing stays the same. Even though you're going to have to pull the block to take the pistons out and get a new engine timing

 

That is exactly what happened to me.
These kits should be pulled off the market, before more motors are killed...

 

I was lucky that I found this out during the test. Pump failed exactly the same way.
Keep your eyes on that AFR gague!

 

--Josh

 

Lets get something clear , this wasnt ams's KIT .. they dont make it, they just sell it. And i've heard of them failing and it happend to me on the dyno as well. So with josh .. that makes 3 that i know of. There are many things that happen that dont go on the internet just a FYI...

Why do you think the company that makes them has now switched to the spray light being on when there is pressure in the line ? and no longer when the power is put to the pump. His pump was getting power and the light said it was working but it airlocked. So why the design change ? if they never fail why the need to redesign the system ?

Now with that being said, the car was rich .. in the 10's with alky and car had a utec.
I wire the alky kits with the ems so that when it runs out of alky it switchs maps in the aem and can kill power to electronic boost controlers. But in josh's case it wouldnt of switched maps because the as far as the car knew it was working properly and spraying meth.. Anything mechanical will at some point in time fail ..

Mark
Turbotrix