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Old Feb 25, 2010, 06:31 AM
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FP,

can u elaborate a lil more on how the two oil pressure sources used to supply the turbo differ?(why the one FP recommends to use for thier turbos are higher in pressure) when it comes to supplying any FP turbo? whats the cause of the pressure drop when using the conventional oil source line.
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Old Feb 25, 2010, 06:39 AM
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Its not the line as much as the source. The head is weaker in pressure as opposed to the oil filter housing.
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Old Feb 25, 2010, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DBallz
There is a whole lot of FP hate around here. But I guess when your the best at what you do then people will hate. It would be ignorant to think that a turbo is not going to fail. My buddy bought his evo the same day I did with 1 mile on it. Mine had 45mile and it was a demo car they used to test drive at that dealer. His stock turbo failed after a week. This is just an example that yes it can happen to OEM, FP, CBRD, anyone. Nothing in this world is perfect and for anyone to think that way is just ignorant.
If the part is being put together by a human being, there will be failures... there is always human error... issues with metallurgy, fatigue failures are a different story.

When something is spinning at 100K RPM or greater it brings any small issue to the forefront.

The issue is how it is handled!

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Old Feb 25, 2010, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
If the part is being put together by a human being, there will be failures... there is always human error... issues with metallurgy, fatigue failures are a different story.

When something is spinning at 100K RPM or greater it brings any small issue to the forefront.

The issue is how it is handled!

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I'm in total agreement with the statement.
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FP Green(Older one), i put 7k-ish on it. Stock lines. 30 PSI on E-85. No problems at all. No foreign sounds, and no performance issues.
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Old Feb 25, 2010, 07:04 AM
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want my evo back on the road

Dont get me wrong Fp Red is a great turbo and i don't want anything from FP, all I want is my EVO 8 back on the road. I just want a quicker turn around time, thats all. Fp red with bolt ons I made 470hp and 425tq dyno jet and very happy with the results and this is why I choose this turbo its stock appearing & power. I hope i did not offened anyone from FP or loyal customers and I just want Evo running its my daily driver
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Old Feb 25, 2010, 08:10 AM
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FP's Great customer services

I wanted to thank FP for the great service and thank you Bryan for getting me my turbo back into 2 days with a new oil fp filter. {thum bup} Evo will back together monday night and thank you FP
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Old Feb 25, 2010, 12:33 PM
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This threaqd is BS it should be called, 'Why did my turbo fail, and why I choose not to believe the manufacturer?'

Once again the champions of the internet are the little people, and the Fascists who own this message board are letting stuff like this be populated on their board. Extortion? Maybe? Maybe FP should pay their Dues to this message board, if they do they can have this post removed.

I own a very reputable shop, I can have my turbo's built by any company in the world, I have local turbo companies vying for my business all the time. I choose to ship my turbo's and my customers turbos 1700 miles south and across the border to have them repaired by people who know what they are doing. These people are FP. Not once has I ever been unhappy with their service and performance.

Now the rant: I have been in the automotive service business for 15 years, I also do failure analysis for many different local companies, including large multinational ones. I have seen so much garbage come and go through these doors and in front of my very eyes. I have seen turbo companies come and go. I have seen everybody rape and pillage our sport and hobby to make a quick buck off of you the unsuspecting customer. I have seen the sport decline it to where it is now, a mere shell of it once was. People have been ripped off over and over again by 'internet hype' and BS, then they part out their cars and move on.

Do you really think that that the source of the destruction cannot be tracked down with a proper failuire analysis?

The problem here is too many people think they can be mechanics, or specialists. When your heater breaks on your house you pay to fix it. When your plumbing breaks at your house you pay to fix it. Your turbo broke form some foreign damage, pay to fix it, take the advice of the repair man, and make sure it doesnt happen again.
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Wow settle down. What posts should be removed? Where is anybody hating on FP? Everyone agrees they make awesome products and is just trying to gain more knowledge. How is having a well informed customer base a bad thing? It will help prevent exactly what you describe in your above post.
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Old Feb 25, 2010, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Magnus
This threaqd is BS it should be called, 'Why did my turbo fail, and why I choose not to believe the manufacturer?'

Once again the champions of the internet are the little people, and the Fascists who own this message board are letting stuff like this be populated on their board. Extortion? Maybe? Maybe FP should pay their Dues to this message board, if they do they can have this post removed.

I own a very reputable shop, I can have my turbo's built by any company in the world, I have local turbo companies vying for my business all the time. I choose to ship my turbo's and my customers turbos 1700 miles south and across the border to have them repaired by people who know what they are doing. These people are FP. Not once has I ever been unhappy with their service and performance.

Now the rant: I have been in the automotive service business for 15 years, I also do failure analysis for many different local companies, including large multinational ones. I have seen so much garbage come and go through these doors and in front of my very eyes. I have seen turbo companies come and go. I have seen everybody rape and pillage our sport and hobby to make a quick buck off of you the unsuspecting customer. I have seen the sport decline it to where it is now, a mere shell of it once was. People have been ripped off over and over again by 'internet hype' and BS, then they part out their cars and move on.

Do you really think that that the source of the destruction cannot be tracked down with a proper failuire analysis?

The problem here is too many people think they can be mechanics, or specialists. When your heater breaks on your house you pay to fix it. When your plumbing breaks at your house you pay to fix it. Your turbo broke form some foreign damage, pay to fix it, take the advice of the repair man, and make sure it doesnt happen again.
I think the problem is people want perfection well guess what nothing is perfect. Turbos fail it happens. If and when it happens and if the turbo is under warranty and you have the correct oil feed and oil FP fixes the problem. I have been using FP turbos 98 when I had Big 20G turbo and the first gen of the red turbo. Since then I have always had a FP turbo in all my cars. Talon, RX-7's, turbo honda and now evo. FP keep up the good work and keep the competitors on your heels
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Old Feb 26, 2010, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Wow settle down. What posts should be removed? Where is anybody hating on FP? Everyone agrees they make awesome products and is just trying to gain more knowledge. How is having a well informed customer base a bad thing? It will help prevent exactly what you describe in your above post.
You are not "gaining" any knowledge by not knowing the condition of the following

a) Was proper procedure followed during the install

b) The condition of the install area, Clean or Dirty?

c) condition of the motor installed on

d) and last but not least everybodies favorite, OIL CONTAMINATION

If you are not 100 percent sure about any of these conditions you should consult a Professional. Yes thats right pay a professional that has at least 5 years of experience and is a licensed technician to do the job.

Most every turbo fails from Oil contamination, this is not a fault of the Turbo manufacturer. But if it is your car it is YOUR PROBLEM if particles going through your motor, are destroying the turbo. This is why this thread shoudl be deleted.

There is a Science to everything, Starting a poll negatively worded as this thread is, is not scientific in any manner, but it is detrimental to FP's image, and is harmful for business.
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Old Feb 26, 2010, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CMB
Its not the line as much as the source. The head is weaker in pressure as opposed to the oil filter housing.
I agree! but would like to hear FP's take on why the conventional source is weaker in pressure vs the proposed source, and if there is anything that can be done to possibly improve the oiling system on the head, to give an overall improvment. just some general knowledge.
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Originally Posted by Magnus
You are not "gaining" any knowledge by not knowing the condition of the following

a) Was proper procedure followed during the install

b) The condition of the install area, Clean or Dirty?

c) condition of the motor installed on

d) and last but not least everybodies favorite, OIL CONTAMINATION

If you are not 100 percent sure about any of these conditions you should consult a Professional. Yes thats right pay a professional that has at least 5 years of experience and is a licensed technician to do the job.

Most every turbo fails from Oil contamination, this is not a fault of the Turbo manufacturer. But if it is your car it is YOUR PROBLEM if particles going through your motor, are destroying the turbo. This is why this thread shoudl be deleted.

There is a Science to everything, Starting a poll negatively worded as this thread is, is not scientific in any manner, but it is detrimental to FP's image, and is harmful for business.
Calm down all he wants is INFO!
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Old Feb 26, 2010, 09:16 AM
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now that my life is coming back together... i am getting motor back together... it will still be powered by a FP Red with oil feed from the oil filter housing...

run nuthin but a FP turbo, always have.. always will...

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Old Feb 26, 2010, 10:16 AM
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You want info? I'll give you info.

Every one of my FP turbos has had 100 percent success rate. I have been dealing with them for 10 years. In ten years I have bough hundreds of turbo's. And personally installed them I might add. Never had one problem.

My experience alone is enough to give you a better idea of the success rate of an FP turbocharger.

"Success rate of 100 percent with well over 300 Forced Performance turbocharger installations in over 10 years of doing business with them. Absolutely zero failure rate."



There's your info. If your FP Turbo fails, check your work
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