Binary Seat Lowering Brackets - Review
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Binary Seat Lowering Brackets - Review
I’ve had a chance to see, sample, and talk to people about many parts that are available for the Evo VIIIs and IXs. I’ve had the opportunity to find out about many positive and negative things regarding some of the modifications that are available for our cars. There was one that piqued my interest the second I heard about them. Binary’s seat lowering brackets struck me as something that could be very worthwhile. I’ve never thought the Evo seats were particularly high; in fact, the seats and seating position were some of the things that helped me choose to purchase an Evo IX for my personal daily driver, but as with anything, there is room for improvement.
When I finally had a chance to sit in a seat that had these brackets installed (client’s car), I was sold immediately. I knew I had to have a set for myself.
Installation of these brackets is quite simple. There is a good write up on this site that covers everything you need, so I won’t cover it again. I took some before and after measurements of my seat. The front of the seat stock was 10 ½ inches and after the Binary brackets were installed, that was dropped to 9 inches. Headroom improved from a stock 39 inches to 40 3/8 inches, a noteworthy improvement for sure.
Now that I’ve had a few weeks of seat time (no track time yet, it’s winter doncha’ know), the improvement in driving position was more significant than I had originally thought. I truly feel like I’m part of the car now. You really do feel that you’re sitting down “in” the car. The lower seat height also allows for more of a horizontal line with your forearm when shifting, with a more accurate push/pull action on the shift lever, which helps provide more accurate shifts. This seating position improvement also gives you more confidence in the car because it helps you to feel what the car is doing (I’m sure there’s no real technical explanation for this, but it’s what my experience has been). Even though I’m mostly torso on my 6’2” frame, I didn’t have any issues with headroom in my car with the stock seat mounts, even with my helmet on, so headroom wasn’t the primary goal I had in mind with these brackets. Obviously headroom IS improved and for someone who is taller than me. That alone would be worth the small investment and time put in so that your hair doesn’t rub against the headliner.
Some of the small “perks” of having these installed is that the arm rest on the door actually works as an arm rest now. I’ve always felt they were too low to really be comfortably used. Also, sightlines for my gauges (I have a 42DD 1-Din bezel above the HVAC controls) is better, especially in regards to glare off of the glass on the gauge faces.
I only really have two small nit-picks in regards to having these installed. First, getting in and out is a tiny bit more cumbersome due to the seat being lower to the ground. Second, during lane changes, it’s a touch more difficult to see the blind spots… not really sure why, it just is.
All in all, I couldn’t be happier with the Binary seat brackets. I recommend them to many people who come into the shop. Also, to anyone who stops by CBRD, don’t forget to ask me to show them to you and have you sit in the seat. I’m sure you’ll be as impressed as I was. They are well made, easy to install, and most of all, they improve the experience of driving. And isn’t that what owning an Evo is all about?
Obligitory Pics (not really install pics as those have been covered already)
Seat Height Before Install
Seat Height After Install
While the seat is out, take the opportunity to really clean the carpet under the seat.
FAIL
WIN
This picture is a little difficult to make out, but it's a composite of the before and after with me in the seat. It's not perfect, as I had to move the camera for the install, but it does illustrate the difference in height.
Feel free to contact Jared (jid2 on this site) at Binary for these great brackets. You surely won't be dissappointed.
http://www.binaryeng.com/products%20...0brackets.html
Thread with the installation steps.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-brackets.html
Caleb
When I finally had a chance to sit in a seat that had these brackets installed (client’s car), I was sold immediately. I knew I had to have a set for myself.
Installation of these brackets is quite simple. There is a good write up on this site that covers everything you need, so I won’t cover it again. I took some before and after measurements of my seat. The front of the seat stock was 10 ½ inches and after the Binary brackets were installed, that was dropped to 9 inches. Headroom improved from a stock 39 inches to 40 3/8 inches, a noteworthy improvement for sure.
Now that I’ve had a few weeks of seat time (no track time yet, it’s winter doncha’ know), the improvement in driving position was more significant than I had originally thought. I truly feel like I’m part of the car now. You really do feel that you’re sitting down “in” the car. The lower seat height also allows for more of a horizontal line with your forearm when shifting, with a more accurate push/pull action on the shift lever, which helps provide more accurate shifts. This seating position improvement also gives you more confidence in the car because it helps you to feel what the car is doing (I’m sure there’s no real technical explanation for this, but it’s what my experience has been). Even though I’m mostly torso on my 6’2” frame, I didn’t have any issues with headroom in my car with the stock seat mounts, even with my helmet on, so headroom wasn’t the primary goal I had in mind with these brackets. Obviously headroom IS improved and for someone who is taller than me. That alone would be worth the small investment and time put in so that your hair doesn’t rub against the headliner.
Some of the small “perks” of having these installed is that the arm rest on the door actually works as an arm rest now. I’ve always felt they were too low to really be comfortably used. Also, sightlines for my gauges (I have a 42DD 1-Din bezel above the HVAC controls) is better, especially in regards to glare off of the glass on the gauge faces.
I only really have two small nit-picks in regards to having these installed. First, getting in and out is a tiny bit more cumbersome due to the seat being lower to the ground. Second, during lane changes, it’s a touch more difficult to see the blind spots… not really sure why, it just is.
All in all, I couldn’t be happier with the Binary seat brackets. I recommend them to many people who come into the shop. Also, to anyone who stops by CBRD, don’t forget to ask me to show them to you and have you sit in the seat. I’m sure you’ll be as impressed as I was. They are well made, easy to install, and most of all, they improve the experience of driving. And isn’t that what owning an Evo is all about?
Obligitory Pics (not really install pics as those have been covered already)
Seat Height Before Install
Seat Height After Install
While the seat is out, take the opportunity to really clean the carpet under the seat.
FAIL
WIN
This picture is a little difficult to make out, but it's a composite of the before and after with me in the seat. It's not perfect, as I had to move the camera for the install, but it does illustrate the difference in height.
Feel free to contact Jared (jid2 on this site) at Binary for these great brackets. You surely won't be dissappointed.
http://www.binaryeng.com/products%20...0brackets.html
Thread with the installation steps.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-brackets.html
Caleb
Last edited by CBRD_Caleb; Mar 1, 2010 at 10:11 AM.
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Apr 6, 2009, 01:27 PM
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These brackets certainly are a fantastic upgrade for our clients..
I prefer them to get a lower line of site in the car, even for someone my size (im 5'8")... and i prefer to sit low especially because of my formula car/open wheel racing background...
after analyzing what we thought would be a good raffle item for our dyno day, we chose these..... knowing it's a product any of our clients would enjoy...
Cheers and bump for a great evo product.
cb
I prefer them to get a lower line of site in the car, even for someone my size (im 5'8")... and i prefer to sit low especially because of my formula car/open wheel racing background...
after analyzing what we thought would be a good raffle item for our dyno day, we chose these..... knowing it's a product any of our clients would enjoy...
Cheers and bump for a great evo product.
cb
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These brackets certainly are a fantastic upgrade for our clients..
I prefer them to get a lower line of site in the car, even for someone my size (im 5'8")... and i prefer to sit low especially because of my formula car/open wheel racing background...
after analyzing what we thought would be a good raffle item for our dyno day, we chose these..... knowing it's a product any of our clients would enjoy...
Cheers and bump for a great evo product.
cb
I prefer them to get a lower line of site in the car, even for someone my size (im 5'8")... and i prefer to sit low especially because of my formula car/open wheel racing background...
after analyzing what we thought would be a good raffle item for our dyno day, we chose these..... knowing it's a product any of our clients would enjoy...
Cheers and bump for a great evo product.
cb
