Difference between St. 2 and St.3
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Cool! Thanks for the info .... so if I want 400whp (on most dynos ... not a dyno dynamics dyno) on 91 oct then I need a stage 3 ...... correct?
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Originally Posted by M3this
Cool! Thanks for the info .... so if I want 400whp (on most dynos ... not a dyno dynamics dyno) on 91 oct then I need a stage 3 ...... correct?
305 is with a test pipe and 91 octane stage 2 = 427 crank hp, with a cat figure about400 this is ATP stage 2 3037
350 is witha test pipe and 91 stage 3 = 490 crank hp. With a cat figure about 460 crank hp. This is stage 3.
Shiv says use a multiplier of 1.4 to get to crank hp;
Ex: 360 hp = 504 hp, 430 = 602 crank hp
If you use crank hp as a common denominator, it will be easier for you to compare.
Hope that helps.
BTW, if you can afford stage 3, get it. Plan on breaking difs or transfer case if you do something boneheaded like side stepping the clutch with the clutch restrictor removed.
Get the Exedy Carbon twin clutch too, so the rest of us will know if it's as good as the regular twin while you're at it (we need input on the carbon clutch; it's not been Vishnu tested)
Eric at AMS says it's great for slipping which is good for drivelines. (No David, you don't need to ring Martin in the AM for me........... 
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Originally Posted by Jaylenospoolboy
I'll convert it for you to industry equivilent crank hp.
305 is with a test pipe and 91 octane stage 2 = 427 crank hp, with a cat figure about400 this is ATP stage 2 3037
350 is witha test pipe and 91 stage 3 = 490 crank hp. With a cat figure about 460 crank hp. This is stage 3.
Shiv says use a multiplier of 1.4 to get to crank hp;
Ex: 360 hp = 504 hp, 430 = 602 crank hp
If you use crank hp as a common denominator, it will be easier for you to compare.
Hope that helps.
BTW, if you can afford stage 3, get it. Plan on breaking difs or transfer case if you do something boneheaded like side stepping the clutch with the clutch restrictor removed.
Get the Exedy Carbon twin clutch too, so the rest of us will know if it's as good as the regular twin while you're at it (we need input on the carbon clutch; it's not been Vishnu tested) Eric at AMS says it's great for slipping which is good for drivelines. (No David, you don't need to ring Martin in the AM for me........... )
305 is with a test pipe and 91 octane stage 2 = 427 crank hp, with a cat figure about400 this is ATP stage 2 3037
350 is witha test pipe and 91 stage 3 = 490 crank hp. With a cat figure about 460 crank hp. This is stage 3.
Shiv says use a multiplier of 1.4 to get to crank hp;
Ex: 360 hp = 504 hp, 430 = 602 crank hp
If you use crank hp as a common denominator, it will be easier for you to compare.
Hope that helps.
BTW, if you can afford stage 3, get it. Plan on breaking difs or transfer case if you do something boneheaded like side stepping the clutch with the clutch restrictor removed.
Get the Exedy Carbon twin clutch too, so the rest of us will know if it's as good as the regular twin while you're at it (we need input on the carbon clutch; it's not been Vishnu tested)
Eric at AMS says it's great for slipping which is good for drivelines. (No David, you don't need to ring Martin in the AM for me........... )
Look at the Vishnu website - this should get ya started: http://www.vishnutuning.com/lancer_stage_zero_2.htm
Then look at the dyno day threads on this (Vishnu) forum, there are a bunch of them, and they all have results posted (usually towards the end of the thread).
l8r)
Then look at the dyno day threads on this (Vishnu) forum, there are a bunch of them, and they all have results posted (usually towards the end of the thread).
l8r)
