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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Difference between St. 2 and St.3

Just like the topic says, whats the difference between these to as far as parts, performance, and price

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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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Just like the topic says, whats the difference between these to as far as parts, performance, and price

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Stage 3 comes with a 321 stainless equal length manifold, a true Garrett balistic turbo (specifically the housing) signature downpipe. Performance is ~600RPM better spool than stage 2, and 25-50+ peak HP difference and nearly 70+ near redline (on racegas) Stage 3 is 5K including the kit and injectors (still need all components of stage 1+!!)

Stage 2 is 3K including injectors (still need all the components of stage 1+!!)
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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How about the install price on a stage 2 with a car that already has stage 1+
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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Can you buy the stage 3 kit and install yourself? Last time I talked to you guys, you didn't sell the kit unless Vishnu shop installed it.

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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by David@Vishnu
Stage 3 comes with a 321 stainless equal length manifold, a true Garrett balistic turbo (specifically the housing) signature downpipe. Performance is ~600RPM better spool than stage 2, and 25-50+ peak HP difference and nearly 70+ near redline (on racegas) Stage 3 is 5K including the kit and injectors (still need all components of stage 1+!!)

Stage 2 is 3K including injectors (still need all the components of stage 1+!!)
David, you left out the optional neck brace and warp speed indicator.
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Scotty we need MORE POWER!!
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Advantage: Stage 3.

Shiv: "This turbo hits like a sledgehammer."

I rode in one, and yes, yes it does.
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Advantage: Stage 3.

Shiv: "This turbo hits like a sledgehammer."

I rode in one, and yes, yes it does.
So let's give stage 3 the nickname Sledgehammer!
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Cool..so currently my stage 1+ evo puts down 270whp, what kind of gains can I expect, on 91 oct, with stage 3?

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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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i think on 93 they laid down around 350-370 this weekend at the dyno days. correct me if i am wrong.

however, add the race gas and you will need that neck brace and the scottish engineer in the back seat.
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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Rod bolts are a must on the Stage 2/3 cars right?

Edit: I mean head studs. I think Shiv's car had rod bolts replaced though too...
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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Negatory stage 2. Dunno about 3
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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do you need to reinforce the engine to accomodate all of that power, or can the stock block handle all the work? I know you at least need headstuds
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Hate to sound like a noob .... but can someone list all the components of each stage as well as DynoDynamics WHP and what that would be on most other dynos?

ThanX
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by David@Vishnu
Stage 3 comes with a 321 stainless equal length manifold, a true Garrett balistic turbo (specifically the housing) signature downpipe. Performance is ~600RPM better spool than stage 2, and 25-50+ peak HP difference and nearly 70+ near redline (on racegas) Stage 3 is 5K including the kit and injectors (still need all components of stage 1+!!)

Stage 2 is 3K including injectors (still need all the components of stage 1+!!)
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Hate to sound like a noob .... but can someone list all the components of each stage as well as DynoDynamics WHP and what that would be on most other dynos?

ThanX
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Stage 2 gets a stage one plus (cams, fuel pump, xede interceptor computer, xede flash for rev, boost, top speed limits, turbo back exhaust) injectors, ATP turbo kit. good for 305 hp w/ atp 3037 turbo, proprietary hotside, 91 octane and 355 to 390 hp 100 octane. Power band crosses stock at 4800 rpm and begins to drop at 6800 rpm as stock manifold begins to choke.

Stage 3 is stage two plus David's stuff above, i.e., replaces stock manifold. good for 91 octane of 350 hp, 100 octane 400 - 430. 3037 is the turbo of choice. I think the hp crosses stock at 4200 rpm and climbs to the redline. Adds hp and and broadens torque curve.



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