I finally got the Vishnu cam gears installed tonight and I thought stage zero + was pretty awesome, but, well the difference to stage one is dramatic. A couple thoughts on the install: it went pretty much like the install threads said it should, but nobody has actually posted the entire story yet. I tried to cheat (why not), but you do have to remove the cam shaft cover and rotate the cam shaft slightly in order to get the gear to align properly. Once your are looking at the cam shafts, there is a big nut to put a wrench on and you can easily (even for an old guy like me) loosen the cam gear nut , especially with a big cheater bar. Taking the spark plugs out, definitely helps with ease of turning the crank, but taking the darn car out of gear is even better. For me it has actually been many years since I wrenched on a car, and the Evo is pretty easy to work on(everthing is ten or twelve mm). Butt dyno says stage one pulls like a freight train! Just do it! -John

 

welcome to stage 1

cool avatar (DSOTM)

 

Sweet!

 

I love stage ones. Basically, stage 1 opens up the 4g63 to perform as we all wish it would from the factory. Drivability completely like stock but great top end. I'd love to have my stage 1 back and try a few more tricks with it and see what it could do. I think 12.3/112.

Darkstar, now when you are cruising down the freeway at 75 to 80, you no longer have to fear downshifting to make a fourth gear pull to 100 or so.

Welcome and don't get your car Jacked in the LBC. LOL

 

I have stage one also and the best part is that I passed SMOG in cali with top end power gained. Decided not to get cams installed since I want to pass smog. If you want a car that has around 300WHP on crap 91 gas and is carb legal the stage 1 is the best choice. The best part was I drag raced an STI with same WHP and pulled on it in the top end. Peak power around 6800 RPMs is nice.

 

Thanks guys. I have read a lot of your posts and they have helped me tremendously in making decisions on what to buy and how to install. Keep up the good work. See you on the backroads!

 

Here is 93 custom tune stage one from Noise ain't it beutiful

 

Not nearly as beautiful as Paul's (RallyRedEvo), who put down 287 pump and 300 race!

 

Hey snoop I thought your car put down 261 to the wheels not 300

 

Hey snoop is that a 1+?

 

Dynojet number is 262*1.175=308WHP

At XS engineering there dyno reads 240WHP stock on 91 so a 60WHP gain would be in the 300WHP range.

 

Why on earth are you quoting dynojet numbers for?...is it because the #'s are higher?
Have you ever had your car on a dynojet?

If 308 whp is correct for your car...what would you say your crank hp is?

 

Andrew why on earth would SHiv put it on his website Are you trying to start a fight and what is your point?

Answer to your questions is on the VISHNU website.

"Wheel HP and Torque (Stock EVO vs. Stage One EVO)

Est. AWD Dynojet Equivalence:300 Wheel HP" VISHNU website

http://www.vishnutuning.com/lancer_stage_zero_2.htm


The stage 1 rocks and is great upgrade and that is all that matters I am very happy with mine. In the Car Driver "Fourgasm" (sept 2003) issue they said the Stage 1 felt like "one smooth and intoxicating shove that is more reminiscent of an AMG mercedes than steroidal ralley car" and I agree it feels like car was meant to drive this way.

 

i would say you compare it to a dynojet because 95% of all cars are dynoed on a dynojet....therefore, in order to compare power numbers, you must do the conversion. simple if you ask me. and crank HP is probably ~345

think, if the car is underrated at 271 from the factory, you think it can't gain 60-70 crank hp from the stage 1 mods?

 

No, not trying to start a fight..I am fully aware of how futile that would be on the internet.

Not trying to make a point really just opening up a discussion....consider the graphs I have attached of a stock evo I recently dynoed on our Dyno Dynamics Dyno

DD has a function that is able to give an approximate flywheel horse power

A run was made and two graphs were created, the first one in normal wheel horsepower mode
and the second in approximate flywheel hp mode
DD has a function that is able to give an approximate flywheel horse power
the latter run is obviously the higher figured graph.....

Notice how close to the factory figure of 271 hp and 273 ftlb torque the dynos results in this mode was able to come
This has not only been observed on Mitsubishi's but Subarus, Chevys, Fords, Volvos, Hummers, Toyotas, Hondas and so on and so on.....
My question is this....If a Dyno Dynamics Dyno whp figure is so low, as it has been suggested many times, how is it that in approx flywheel horse power mode it is able to get so close to the manufacturers claimed power at the brochure?