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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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cant wait to get my stage1+!!!!!!!!!! still waiting a call from you vishnu guys regarding my order BTW.
Old Nov 27, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
So is the CAS although we're still working through a OBD diagnostic glitch (it throws a PO300 code-- nothing else).
What causes the misfire code? Will it throw it on a stock car?

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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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What causes the misfire code? Will it throw it on a stock car?

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Some replication artifact that we have yet to track down. And yep, it will throw it on a stock car as well. FWIW, this is something completely different from the PO300 code some EVOs are getting from the factory. That issue has something to do with drivetrain noise. Either way, one can get an idea of how sensitive the misfire diagnostics are on modern OBD-ii compliant vehicles.

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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Hi guys,
V3 completely redesigns the way the CAS and MAF waveforms are broken down and replicated. MAF replication is quite a bit better than it is with v2. So is the CAS although we're still working through a OBD diagnostic glitch (it throws a PO300 code-- nothing else). We'll figure it out before too long. Until then, we are taking in local beta testers (Stg 1+ cars only) who want to try it. You'll just have to ignore the CEL for a bit until its sorted out.

Drivability will improve to better-than-stock levels. Idle will be smoother. Deccel smoother. And so on.... neat stuff!

Shiv

Thanks for the information Shiv. It seems that version 3 has great things. I don’t know if this will help you out in figuring Code P0300 but its a shot. My car will never give that code until I slam the hood half way through while it’s on. That is the only way that I get the code. I used to get it every 52 miles (PO300 and PO303 piston number 3) Now if I don’t slam my hood no codes.
Old Nov 28, 2004 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Some replication artifact that we have yet to track down. And yep, it will throw it on a stock car as well. FWIW, this is something completely different from the PO300 code some EVOs are getting from the factory. That issue has something to do with drivetrain noise. Either way, one can get an idea of how sensitive the misfire diagnostics are on modern OBD-ii compliant vehicles.

Shiv
Better safe than sorry, I guess. It wouldn't be healthy to go missing-misfies.

This may be a silly question, but I can't find where anyone has asked it. Can end users update the firmware or do we have to send it back to you for a flash?

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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Hi guys,
V3 completely redesigns the way the CAS and MAF waveforms are broken down and replicated. MAF replication is quite a bit better than it is with v2. So is the CAS although we're still working through a OBD diagnostic glitch (it throws a PO300 code-- nothing else). We'll figure it out before too long. Until then, we are taking in local beta testers (Stg 1+ cars only) who want to try it. You'll just have to ignore the CEL for a bit until its sorted out.

Drivability will improve to better-than-stock levels. Idle will be smoother. Deccel smoother. And so on.... neat stuff!

Shiv
so the V3 is a new Xede or just a program for an xede?? do you need testers or do I have to pay to be a tester?

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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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Shiv's either missed this or tired of being bombarded with V3 questions every other day.
V3 is basically a hardware firmware update to the Xede. Those that need or what V3 when it becomes available ship it into Vishnu for the free update. Here's a quote from Shiv on some of the features that will be available with V3.

-Knock logging.
-O2 simulator circuit for test pipes integrated into the harness (easily retrofitable for those who already have harnesses)
-O2/AFR logging
-MAF is now scaled logarithmically at low load and non-log at higher load for max resolution down low without giving up high load resolution. The transition is invisable at 20% load.
-Closed loop fuel tuning. Improves fuel economy since you can program the XEDE to cruise at a slightly leaner AFR. Also fixes idle quality on big cammed cars since you can make it idle at a richer, more stable, AFR. Allows you to, for the first time, tune in closed loop conditions to maximize drivabily and transient power response.

There's a few more features but these were the ones I was talking about. Currently, we're running into a silly CAS replication issue which we are trying to get to the bottom of. We completely re-designed the way the XEDE reads and replicates thye CAS waveform (made it better). But there is still some artifact that we need to isolate and remove. No biggie. Just takes time.

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Shiv,

Me would like V3 once it's been given the green light.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 05:29 AM
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Will we need a re tune for the closed-loop "crusing" feature? I've seen where Xmap V3 will convert the older V2 maps to V3 maps.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by n00dle
Those that need or what V3 when it becomes available ship it into Vishnu for the free update.
According to shiv, end users can update the firmware themselves without having to send in the unit.

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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by donour
According to shiv, end users can update the firmware themselves without having to send in the unit.

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Yes and from the looking over what has to be done it seems rather straight forward, but Vishnu thus far has required people to send their Xedes in. Probably a safety issue in relenquishing the procedure to customers with the possibility of them screwing up then coming here to rant and rave about it.
Old Nov 30, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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yeah, that means i can do it in the comforts of my own home with no downtime...Yippee skippeee.
Old Dec 1, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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V3 sounds awsome, Glad I got an xede an year ago
Old Dec 8, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Vishnu_Evo8
...i bought a turbo car for teh cool blow off valve sound (which i cant have cuz u gotta run recirc and no intake for sucking sound) so no sound, and no cool turbo spool kick in the but power..
Install a Greddy BOV with the single spring mod and have the best of both worlds (recirc with whoosh sound at WOT). The only drawback is the annoying "chirp" of the BOV when you're not at WOT. To get a decent intake sound, try an HKS panel filter for you stock airbox. This is the setup I run on my stage 1+ ... no loss in driveability and all the cool sounds, hehe

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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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When will the V3 code be available?

And when it is available will we be able to field upgrade our units or do we have to ship them back for the upgrade? This has a huge impact on whether I install everything now or wait for the new code.

Overall though this sounds great!
 




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