Anyone installed an NX N-Tercooler Chiller on an Xede equipped car? Dan at Mach V claims that his shop car saw a 48.3 HP and 56.6 ft-lbs increase. Bottle can be filled with NO2 or CO2.

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Seems like an incredibly inexpensive way to make alot of short term HP. If it really works I don't understand why others are not all over this mod.

 

Holy crap i saw a IS300 with the nitrous hookup to his IC and he had a backfire and it was lound and messy !

 

All this does is spray N02 or CO2 on the outside of the intercooler to reduce charge temps. Gases never enter the IC.

 

Gasses did enter the intercooler through the intake. You don't make 50 HP by cooling the intercooler.

 

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Perhaps you don't want to spray nitrous inside your motor, for whatever reasons. Here's a neat system that gives you the intercooling effects of spraying compressed gas, but with a simpler and completely external approach.

Basically, the N-tercooler harnesses the extreme cold produced when high-pressure gas is released. The gas (we recommend CO2) sprays directly on your intercooler to lower the intercooler temp to well below freezing. The result is a tremendous drop in intake temperatures. We admit, we were skeptical, but our own Evo gained an astounding 48.3 hp and 56.6 ft-lbs of torque, at the wheels!

 

50 HP is indeed obtainable through external supercooling of intake charge temps. Here's an excerpt from similar technology that was used on the 2003 SVT Lightning Concept:

Ford’s patented SuperCooler technology cleverly provides a special burst of power for the SVT Lightning concept. Traditional intercoolers dissipate heat from the supercharged air by circulating coolant through a front-mounted, air-cooled radiator. With the SuperCooler system, the vehicle’s air conditioning system is used to chill a small storage tank of coolant to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit.

On demand, the SuperCooler system switches the intercooler flow from its normal circulation and dumps the chilled coolant into the engine’s intercooler. In turn, the intercooler dissipates up to 20 percent more heat from the charge air – resulting in a denser air charge.

A green light on the instrument panel indicates the system’s readiness. SuperCooler is activated automatically when the driver depresses the accelerator to a wide-open-throttle position.

“This technology plays directly into the hands of the enthusiast,” Coletti says. “The SuperCooler provides the edge for the driver, and it is done simply by taking advantage of the hardware that already exists in the vehicle.”

As a result of this cool technology, the SVT Lighting concept can give its driver as much as 50 transient horsepower for short bursts of 30-45 seconds and regenerate within 2 minutes under normal driving conditions. While its effect is similar to that of an aftermarket nitrous oxide system, the SuperCooler is completely self-contained, environmentally friendly and regenerative.

 

I know what the product is. I know that this experiment did not have variables controlled as needed. That is all.

 

I think somone said that the gains from this were from the c02 or NX being ingested into the intake.

 

That is utter BS. That is not possible, UNLESS, they did a run with a 200 degree heater on the intercooler got a number. then sprayed that thing down with N20, before and during the run, then, you might see that kind of power gain. but in the real world, you won't see ANYTHING with co2, in fact, i saw a loss of power due to co2 getting in my intake. you might see some minimal gains with nitrous, but thats only because it is seeping into the intake....

ive done all the tests, sprayed it down with both n20 and co2.....so, i know its bs

 

At the Norcalevo gruppe-s dyno day.. the car that made by far the most power just had a flash and a damn NX chiller.. This car was making more power then 1+ cars. However, they were not using co2 but no2. The power produced could have been from the no2 being injested, while co2 would cause power loss if it was injested. To bad he was running co2 at the time because we would have been able to tell if this stuff is for real or not.

 

i just told you. ive already done all those tests. i lost 20whp on the dyno TWICE from spraying co2 during the run. only thing that **** is good for, is cooling your intercooler down BEFORE a 1/4 mile run...but def not worth all the money. you could just buy a 5lb bottle, fill it up, and get out of the car and hose down the intercooler before you run....don't need the $400 fancy ****.

 

I did my test using N2O, not CO2. I did not retest using CO2, so I don't know what I would have got with that.

The numbers I got are real, though. I did two passes without the system on, then two with. Both before and after pulls were very close. The gains I posted are from the highest pull before and the highest after.

After getting some feedback about CO2, I would not use it if you have an open-element intake system. I freely admit some gas may be sucked in to the intake. Straight CO2 is a major combustion inhibitor, so if there's any chance of injesting anything, you'd at least want it to be nitrous. (I changed the wording about that on our web site, too.)

As I've said before, I can't conclusively prove whether the car was sucking some gas or not, or whether all the gains were from cooling. But I know the system makes power. Oh, and I did have A/F analysis equipment on the car, and the air/fuel ratio changed by less then 0.1. So it certainly didn't run dangerously lean or anything as a result.

--Dan
Mach V
MachEVO.com

 

Simply calculating air density (which is proportional to hp gain) through the temp reduction is enough to verify if the gains simply came from cooling or through NO2 inhalation. Knowing how hard it is to create such huge gains through cooling would suggest that the gains came, in large part, through breathing the happy gas

A car running on NO2 will behave differently, at the tailpipe sniffer, than on running on regular air, FWIW.

Shiv

 

SRT's will see nearly 40hp on the dyno with this. there are a ton of them running around. gains with CO2 arnt as big, but they still do bump power nearly 20hp for short term. please tell me how this doesnt work? an IC is just a heat exchanger. the air traveling over the IC removes the latent heat of the air traveling through the IC. now when you spray the IC with nitrous or anyother compressed gas, you drastically cool the vanes of the IC. this cooling helps to remove even more of the heated air inside the system.

if you have a crappy IC and upgrade it with one that is more efficient you make more power. why is this? it is because you are decreasing intake temperatures, which means denser air and therefore more power. so if changing IC's drops temps and adds power, why wouldnt somthing that drastically cools your IC?

 

I am the guy who used nx intercooler kit at Gruppe-s at the norcal evo.net meet. I made 268 w/o the n2o on and 286 w/ the n2o on. It make power and it was on the dyno, however at this point I do not plan to use the system except to cool the intercooler. Regardless it makes power, I've seen it at everyone at Gruppe-s saw it.