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Old May 15, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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silly question (I should know this)

Most of the people I see upgrading their turbo to the 3071 or 3076 or GT35 appear to no longer be running the MAF sensor. Did they convert to speed density? Can this be done with the Xede?


I know I could have searched, but I would have had to weed through many threads looking for many different bits of info.
Old May 15, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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i'm running gt3076 using stock maf on xede
Old May 15, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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AFAIK the XEDE needs to retain the MAF. That is what I will be running with the soon to be installed AMS 3071 kit.

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Old May 15, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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most people that have aftermarket turbo's run standalones because the stock ecu cant squeeze the power out of the turbo and adjust the fuel map correctly
Old May 15, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 03BREvo8
most people that have aftermarket turbo's run standalones because the stock ecu cant squeeze the power out of the turbo and adjust the fuel map correctly
I had the vishnu stage 3 kit for a little bit and sold it cuz it was too much power for me.

Trust me......it squeezes just fine
Old May 16, 2005 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 03BREvo8
most people that have aftermarket turbo's run standalones because the stock ecu cant squeeze the power out of the turbo and adjust the fuel map correctly
We have converted 4 cars so far to the Visnu stage 3 package with the 3037S turbo installed all still running MAF and Xede and all are producing in the region of 520hp....In fact a mass air flow system is far more accurate at fueling than a speed density...thats part of the reason the car manufactures use this system on new vehicles....
IMO stand alones are used far too often on street cars with the usual set of problems....these usually include bad starting, compromised engine protection, non-conformity to federal law and a whole host of other problems that I will not go into now...
Just my 2c
Old May 16, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Im actually glad to hear that people are still using the MAF and having success. I didn't want to remove the MAF, and I really didn't want to use a true standalone for the reasons that Andrew mentioned..and also the higher cost and more difficult installation.
Old May 16, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by asasin79
i'm running gt3076 using stock maf on xede
Same here.
Old May 16, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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It can be done both ways, we like to keep the factory sensors. Remember we use the xede as a tool to keep factory temp, baro, knock corrections. Power is easy to make and can be had with safety and ease of use. The most xede power made on our dyno was the red shop car with our 35R kit (490 AWHP) with an intake manni, and ported head. AMS 35R kit made 470AWHP bolted on a stage 1+ car, no motorwork of any kind.
Old May 16, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Sweet. That is what I wanted to hear.
Old May 17, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by David@Vishnu
... AMS 35R kit made 470AWHP bolted on a stage 1+ car, no motorwork of any kind.
That's sick!

Have you guys dynoed any AMS 3071 kits?

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