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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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hmmm....

i would keep what you got and save for something different....

i dunno what your preferences are, and what you would like to do with your car, so i can't say WHAT i would get.....but i would have to say your options are weak.

and i wax srt-4s on the road course like crazy....those things are a joke in the twisties
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypnoz
Um look at the facts. The SRT-4 is faster, handles better, better braking, better tires, lighter, and has better low end torque for drivability. Also when modding the SRT-4 is easier to make faster, especially on the highway. Not saying the WRX doesnt have the potential to be faster, but it costs more to due so.
Obviously you have no clue how reliable the SRT-4 is, all i hear about WRX owners are problem after problem. Mostly about trannys. My SRT-4 hasn't had a problem except through my own doing. I happen to know quite a few SRT-4 owners in my area and they have proven to be extremely reliable. Ever read SCC's article on the SRT-4 engine? Bulletproof, just like the 4G63. It just hasn't had 10+ years of people extracting power out of it.
Judging it just by it's brand is simply ignorant. People do that with EVO's too. Say its crap just because it was made by mitsu, however anyone who knows about them knows they are amazing.
Acutally guys, Hypnoz is right ...
The engine on the SRT4 is on par with the 4G63 and it even has more displacement to boot. It is a closed-deck like the 4G63 and thus can make tons of power. The WRX engine on the other hand is an open deck POS ....
The tranny on the SRT4 is known to hold 500WHP with no problems but the WRX tranny WILL give up around 240WHP .... heck people have hand their tranny grenade on them while they are near stock with minimal of mods eg: TBE (gears stripped!!!)
Stock handling on both these cars are on par with each other. Again with suspension mods both can be made to handle great.
All the WRX has going for it is AWD tranny which isn't even that great, it has NO LSD in the front diff, NO LSD in the rear all it has is a Viscous center diff ... Heck even the SRT4 has a LSD in the front ....
How do I know? I used to drive a WRX ....
I only said keep the WRX from a cost perspective ... actually the SRT4 is probably the BETTER platform of the 2!
Judge not a book by its cover. Even a bad company can produce a great car every once in a while ....
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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whats up drew. i think you honestly would be better off with the srt-4. you don't track the car. and if i remember didn't an srt-4 beat both the evo and the sti in the one lap last year? dollar for dollar an srt-4 will easily out horspower the wrx. stock block/head stage 3 makes 300 on pump gas. the lsd on the 04's is a super beefy quaife unit and the tranny's are stout. bash it all you want but reality is reality.
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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fwiw i probably am the only one in this thread that has driven, dyno tested, wrenched on, and raced against/with the evo, the srt-4, and the wrx.
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by beavis4g63t
whats up drew. i think you honestly would be better off with the srt-4. you don't track the car. and if i remember didn't an srt-4 beat both the evo and the sti in the one lap last year? dollar for dollar an srt-4 will easily out horspower the wrx. stock block/head stage 3 makes 300 on pump gas. the lsd on the 04's is a super beefy quaife unit and the tranny's are stout. bash it all you want but reality is reality.
true true...but a VF34 will make ~280+ on pump gas.....but I see your point. I have looked into the AGP turbo kit and fuel system for the srt4. I have research the srt4 numerous times and seen the vids, they are no joke when you mod them. The thing is, my rex is paid off and I dont have a job and I still go to college....so having to make payments the srt4 would be a slight problem. I still havent ruled out the srt4 just yet....I'll probably make up my mind by the end of the year.
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
...but the WRX tranny WILL give up around 240WHP .... heck people have hand their tranny grenade on them while they are near stock with minimal of mods eg: TBE (gears stripped!!!)
My WRX with vf30 dyno'd 272 on a dynojet and later made anywhere from 248-263 on a dyno-dynamics. The vf-30 was on the car for ~17k miles and survived a dozen or so 1/4 mile passes, a weekend of road course fun, an autocross and everyday abuse.

As stated somewhere else in this thread, grenaded WRX trannies are typically the fault of the hamfisted drivers at the wheel.

I say get the turbo and run the car till the 205 dies. Then it's 207 time
Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hypnoz
Um look at the facts. The SRT-4 is faster, handles better, better braking, better tires, lighter, and has better low end torque for drivability. Also when modding the SRT-4 is easier to make faster, especially on the highway. Not saying the WRX doesnt have the potential to be faster, but it costs more to due so.


Obviously you have no clue how reliable the SRT-4 is, all i hear about WRX owners are problem after problem. Mostly about trannys. My SRT-4 hasn't had a problem except through my own doing. I happen to know quite a few SRT-4 owners in my area and they have proven to be extremely reliable. Ever read SCC's article on the SRT-4 engine? Bulletproof, just like the 4G63. It just hasn't had 10+ years of people extracting power out of it.

Judging it just by it's brand is simply ignorant. People do that with EVO's too. Say its crap just because it was made by mitsu, however anyone who knows about them knows they are amazing.
Actually I stand corrected, the SRT4 is faster than the WRX. But that's because it is lighter, and has a bigger engine, hence the higher torque and power. But the funny thing is that it still isn't as powerful as the Evo considering it has a 2.4 liter engine and a 16G as well. I mean if you look at the STi it is a 2.5L and it logically has more power than our Evos. And the STi doesn't have that big of a turbo...I think. I do agree that the SRT4 is more bulletproof with the closed block, but that is if you are modifying. Most of the problems you hear about cars including the Evos is from abuse. People drive their cars too hard. Modifying adds to that. I took some automotive courses and my instructor once said," Every car is a product of extensive engineering and research." "Each car consists of different systems working together in harmony." "Once you start modifying you throw all those engineers out the door and upset the balnce of those systems, which is why things break." If you keep the WRX and SRT4 as is and put high mileage, I would go with the car from the Land of the Rising Sun.

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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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keep the rex i had one before my evo... an srt will never handle better than a WRX
Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Drews_WRX
Seriosly, thanks for the imput but most, if not all of your comments are just plain crazy. Most of those tranny problems you heard about are from the owners doing, not the weak trannys. As far as reliability is concerned, I have beat the living crap out of my WRX for 77,000 miles, and my last oil analysis and compression check are fine and dandy and Ill ive done is change the spark plugs, air, fuel, and oil filters.


ok, now you've gone too far....please stop.
Prove that they are crazy. Everything I have said is the truth, no matter how much your hatred for the SRT-4 may be. You can say most of the tranny problems are from abuse but people abuse their SRT's just as bad and don't have near the number of issues with them. Want to know why? Because the SRT-4 tranny is STRONGER.
Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by racerxl99
dude can i have whatever it is that u r smoking, cause that $#!t seems to be working for u.

keep the rex, man. and check out these guys too http://www.crawfordperformance.com/home/index.shtml

and please dont do the wrc hood lights. its an actual function for WRC but as for the street, they are just plain rice.

Denial doesn't change the fact that everything i've said is true.
Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by inariv5573
True the SRT4 has more torque, but better handling? I don't think so, you're talking about AWD vs. FWD. My dad hasn't had tranny problems with his WRX. I did have a tranny problem with my old 91 GSX, but it had 80,000 miles and the transmission control module got fried. It costed me $950 to get it replaced. I am not being ignorant, everybody knows that Japanese cars are built better than American cars. It isn't ignorance, it is a fact.
AWD doesn't automatically make a car have awesome handling. The stock WRX suspension is not very performance oriented. The SRT-4 will put down better skidpad numbers and slalom speeds, and will beat it stock for stock on an autocross, and most other types of racing.
Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by turtlelancer
srt may be faster from a roll but handles better than a wrx is the funniest **** i have heard.
What is funny about it? You're buddies tell you SRT's handle like **** and any car on earth could outhandle it? LOL

Get a clue. The WRX stock has horrible handling. Not horrible grip, but horrible handling. The SRT-4 DOES stock-to-stock have better handling. Prove me wrong.
Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by charl1exbr0wn
srt4's make me sigh when i see them on the street. because srt4's suck.
And not one of the SRT drivers care. They know they have the best performance car at it's price range, and that they can afford new.
Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jbfoco
keep the rex i had one before my evo... an srt will never handle better than a WRX

Wrong. Stock to stock the SRT-4 has better handling, there is no debate really. People pretty much just see AWD vs FWD and automatically assume the WRX is the better handler, yet it simply isn't so.
Old Jul 26, 2005 | 05:15 AM
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