Please look at data log and tell me what you think...
Why don't you just register over at the innovative forums and then access the logworks forum and download logworks 2.0? Your LC1 will interface w/ you laptop using the logworks 2.0 and the cabling that came w/ the WB. You can then see exactly what the wideband is reading.
EDIT:
Here is the link to the software you need on your computer in order to access the LC1:
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/s...gWorks2-b3.exe
EDIT:
Here is the link to the software you need on your computer in order to access the LC1:
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/s...gWorks2-b3.exe
Last edited by A418t81; Aug 7, 2005 at 11:25 AM.
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I'm with joey on this one. If you read this post, shiv clearly states that a 50% AFR = 15:1, which is why in their instructions the car should idle at ~49%, which is around a 14.8:1 AFR
Perhaps we need clarification from Vishnu on this. did Vishnu reprogram the analog output of the LC-1s they shipped out to match this table??
Perhaps we need clarification from Vishnu on this. did Vishnu reprogram the analog output of the LC-1s they shipped out to match this table??
Originally Posted by joeycoates
Holy Bejesus!! If that is correct then my A/F's could be WAY off!!! Please let us know when you find out.....
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Hm...I just found something worrysome.
Notice that shiv's table references the LM-1, not the LC-1. If you download the LM-1 manual (http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/download.php) you'll see that the LM-1 is factory set so that one can easily read the AFR off a voltmeter (it even references a 10-20AFR range). These are _not_ the same settings as we have on the LC-1.
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Notice that shiv's table references the LM-1, not the LC-1. If you download the LM-1 manual (http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/download.php) you'll see that the LM-1 is factory set so that one can easily read the AFR off a voltmeter (it even references a 10-20AFR range). These are _not_ the same settings as we have on the LC-1.
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Unless Shiv has the Xede modifying the input. But given that his table is so close I would think not. It is simply that he posted the LM-1 table.
Originally Posted by Sackett
OK, so this is the final word? Vishnu is reading .5 to 1.523 lambda from the LC-1?
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Even so, for anyone who has the XD-1 gauge, they will be seeing a different reading on the gauge than the XEDE is reading. we really need to know how the xede is interpreting the signals...
Thanks for all the info though guys
Thanks for all the info though guys
Originally Posted by freedom
Unless Shiv has the Xede modifying the input. But given that his table is so close I would think not. It is simply that he posted the LM-1 table.
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OK, that would make this the table:
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Volts AFR % Lambda 0 7.35 0 0.5 0.05 7.5 1 0.51 0.1 7.65 2 0.52 0.15 7.8 3 0.53 0.2 7.95 4 0.54 0.25 8.1 5 0.55 0.3 8.25 6 0.56 0.35 8.4 7 0.57 0.4 8.55 8 0.58 0.45 8.7 9 0.59 0.5 8.85 10 0.6 0.55 9 11 0.61 0.6 9.15 12 0.62 0.65 9.31 13 0.63 0.7 9.46 14 0.64 0.75 9.61 15 0.65 0.8 9.76 16 0.66 0.85 9.91 17 0.67 0.9 10.06 18 0.68 0.95 10.21 19 0.69 1 10.36 20 0.7 1.05 10.51 21 0.71 1.1 10.66 22 0.73 1.15 10.81 23 0.74 1.2 10.96 24 0.75 1.25 11.11 25 0.76 1.3 11.26 26 0.77 1.35 11.41 27 0.78 1.4 11.56 28 0.79 1.45 11.71 29 0.8 1.5 11.86 30 0.81 1.55 12.01 31 0.82 1.6 12.16 32 0.83 1.65 12.31 33 0.84 1.7 12.46 34 0.85 1.75 12.61 35 0.86 1.8 12.76 36 0.87 1.85 12.91 37 0.88 1.9 13.07 38 0.89 1.95 13.22 39 0.9 2 13.37 40 0.91 2.05 13.52 41 0.92 2.1 13.67 42 0.93 2.15 13.82 43 0.94 2.2 13.97 44 0.95 2.25 14.12 45 0.96 2.3 14.27 46 0.97 2.35 14.42 47 0.98 2.4 14.57 48 0.99 2.45 14.72 49 1 2.5 14.87 50 1.01 2.55 15.02 51 1.02 2.6 15.17 52 1.03 2.65 15.32 53 1.04 2.7 15.47 54 1.05 2.75 15.62 55 1.06 2.8 15.77 56 1.07 2.85 15.92 57 1.08 2.9 16.07 58 1.09 2.95 16.22 59 1.1 3 16.37 60 1.11 3.05 16.52 61 1.12 3.1 16.67 62 1.13 3.15 16.83 63 1.14 3.2 16.98 64 1.15 3.25 17.13 65 1.17 3.3 17.28 66 1.18 3.35 17.43 67 1.19 3.4 17.58 68 1.2 3.45 17.73 69 1.21 3.5 17.88 70 1.22 3.55 18.03 71 1.23 3.6 18.18 72 1.24 3.65 18.33 73 1.25 3.7 18.48 74 1.26 3.75 18.63 75 1.27 3.8 18.78 76 1.28 3.85 18.93 77 1.29 3.9 19.08 78 1.3 3.95 19.23 79 1.31 4 19.38 80 1.32 4.05 19.53 81 1.33 4.1 19.68 82 1.34 4.15 19.83 83 1.35 4.2 19.98 84 1.36 4.25 20.13 85 1.37 4.3 20.28 86 1.38 4.35 20.43 87 1.39 4.4 20.59 88 1.4 4.45 20.74 89 1.41 4.5 20.89 90 1.42 4.55 21.04 91 1.43 4.6 21.19 92 1.44 4.65 21.34 93 1.45 4.7 21.49 94 1.46 4.75 21.64 95 1.47 4.8 21.79 96 1.48 4.85 21.94 97 1.49 4.9 22.09 98 1.5 4.95 22.24 99 1.51 5 22.39 100 1.52
I cannot see any way that you would be getting knock activity, no matter how minor, when running A/F's in the 9's. I guess we need some Vishnu input on this, I am sure that they would have compared their on board A/F readings to what the dyno read.....
Register with the Innovate forum and download the Logworks V2 beta 3 software. Jack into the LC-1 and log a run. The results will be whatever the LC-1 thinks it is reading without regard to what is going on with the analog output.
Note that Logworks on the CD that came with the LC-1 will not work with the LC-1. I know it doesn't make sense, but Innovate included the LM-1 software with the LC-1.
Edit: I read another post above that said the same thing. Until Vishnu responds, this is a good solution. In any case why not pick up a copy of Logworks....
Note that Logworks on the CD that came with the LC-1 will not work with the LC-1. I know it doesn't make sense, but Innovate included the LM-1 software with the LC-1.
Edit: I read another post above that said the same thing. Until Vishnu responds, this is a good solution. In any case why not pick up a copy of Logworks....
Originally Posted by Sackett
wow, making that change took my AFR from mid 11s to high 9s. Now i really wanna know what the deal is.. should SMART be tuning me to high 9s??
Last edited by freedom; Aug 7, 2005 at 01:55 PM.
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I did a couple logs of the LC-1, and it does look like my AFRs are running very low 10s, dropping into 9s at some times. but i am also seeing consistant knock events on the ~8 pulls i have done so far, some happening below 6000 RPM. what is going on here... btw i have a stock MR, using a copy of the 03-04 stock basemap.
How do i get the high-speed logging in xmap 3.2 to work? it keeps saying my COM port is in use...
How do i get the high-speed logging in xmap 3.2 to work? it keeps saying my COM port is in use...
Originally Posted by joeycoates
I cannot see any way that you would be getting knock activity, no matter how minor, when running A/F's in the 9's. I guess we need some Vishnu input on this, I am sure that they would have compared their on board A/F readings to what the dyno read.....
Originally Posted by Sackett
I did a couple logs of the LC-1, and it does look like my AFRs are running very low 10s, dropping into 9s at some times. but i am also seeing consistant knock events on the ~8 pulls i have done so far, some happening below 6000 RPM. what is going on here... btw i have a stock MR, using a copy of the 03-04 stock basemap.
How do i get the high-speed logging in xmap 3.2 to work? it keeps saying my COM port is in use...
How do i get the high-speed logging in xmap 3.2 to work? it keeps saying my COM port is in use...
I dunno, but my software should work fine if you care to try.
http://pyxede.sf.net
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