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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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I would recommend 272/272 (set to -4/-1) ... I ran that setup in my car for over a year, and it was very nice. No complaints at all.

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Yeah, i've seen quite a few dyno plots that suggest that the straight 272s don't actually give up any low end power to 264s -- despite what back of the envelope calculations would suggest. davidbushur will talk about this at length if you ask him. Work also sells 269s which are sort of between.

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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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No cams, only Vishnu cam gears. Cams will be my next upgrade after I sort out the fuel map. I'm going to zero out the fuel map and see what AFR readings I get. If the "hump" goes away then at least I'll know it's the map and not something mechanical.

On the subject of cams, I was talking to AMS and they recommend 272/272, yet Vishnu recommends 264/272. What are your guys running?
Sorry about the misunderstanding of the cams but ....

Originally Posted by MAX711
Yeah, it's "mostly" stock except for the Vishnu Exhaust and Cams and Xede.


I run 264/272 -2/-2, used to run -4/-1 but after the tubular mani plus FMIC that setting proved to be laggy. On 272 running -4/-1 will not be as laggy.


Old Dec 1, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Sorry to bump an old thread.....

Did anyone every successfully log boost through AN02 ?
Old Dec 1, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JTB
Sorry to bump an old thread.....

Did anyone every successfully log boost through AN02 ?
Umm yeah i think so.. i'm pretty sure MAX711 set it up. See his post above, he has a datalog of MAP. i dont see it in this thread now, but i thought i remember him saying he hooked it up.. look around for it.
Old Dec 1, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sackett
Umm yeah i think so.. i'm pretty sure MAX711 set it up. See his post above, he has a datalog of MAP. i dont see it in this thread now, but i thought i remember him saying he hooked it up.. look around for it.

Yeah I saw his post and was encouraged. Unfortunately he never posted any of his logs

I was hoping that you, freedom or donour had figured it out and could give me some easy directions
Old Dec 1, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JTB
Yeah I saw his post and was encouraged. Unfortunately he never posted any of his logs

I was hoping that you, freedom or donour had figured it out and could give me some easy directions

Buy a GM 3 Bar map sensor, hook up +5v to the ECU +5v wire, hookup ground, then hookup the output signal wire to AN2 Input on the xede.
Old Dec 1, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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Sounds simple enough and logical...
Has anyone actually done it yet?

Not that I am concerned whether it will work or not but curious as to whether it was worth while.

BTW -- thanks for the help

freedom also mentioned that the voltages from the Defi sender might be compatible. This would be great for me as I could use existing hardware rather than buying new.
I wonder if he got it working?
Old Dec 1, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Yeah, MAX711 did get it working. This is pretty much all he said about it:
Does anyone know what pin AN2 is on the Xede harness. I installed the GM sensor (part# 12223861) which works great, but I'm having to use AN0 as the input (pin 9 on Grey connector), which is supposed to be for the SMART knock buffer.

And this website has the only voltage-to-boost table i can find. there is a downloadable Excel doc on there. http://hhscott.com/93tmv/3-bar_map.htm


As for the Defi, i guess you can test the sender with a multimeter to see what its range is. Heck, if you hook it up to a bicycle pump or something, you could theoretically see the boost readout on the gauge, check the voltage, and make your own conversion calculation too.
Old May 17, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sackett
Yeah, MAX711 did get it working. This is pretty much all he said about it:



And this website has the only voltage-to-boost table i can find. there is a downloadable Excel doc on there. http://hhscott.com/93tmv/3-bar_map.htm


As for the Defi, i guess you can test the sender with a multimeter to see what its range is. Heck, if you hook it up to a bicycle pump or something, you could theoretically see the boost readout on the gauge, check the voltage, and make your own conversion calculation too.
Sorry to bring this back, but anyone know if the voltage-to-boost conversion in the above link is accurate?

If not, does anyone have the voltage-to-boost conversion for a GM 3 bar sensor?
Old May 18, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
Sorry to bring this back, but anyone know if the voltage-to-boost conversion in the above link is accurate?

If not, does anyone have the voltage-to-boost conversion for a GM 3 bar sensor?

I didn't use a conversion table. Just read the value going into your Xede when the engine is shut off (i.e. atmospheric conditions) and then mess with the value until you get 14.7. The rest will follow, no need for a conversion table.

If I remember right, my GM sensor was putting out about 1 volt at atmospheric which the Xede will read as 51 (255/5, Xede reads 0-5 volts as 0-255), so multiply that by 0.288 and you get 14.7. Thats your absolute boost pressure, if you want gauge pressure just subtract 14.7. This assumes that the pressure outside is 14.7 on the day you set it up, but it doesn't change that much anyway.

It's really important to have an accurate 5 volt supply for the sensor, not 4.8 volts or 5.2 volts, but 5.

Hope that helps.
Old May 18, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Here is the mapping plotted as pressure as a function of output voltage, as well as the Xede's y-axis vs. pressure.

In other words I did consider using a GM 3-bar map sensor as an input to my converter module, thus permitting fully closed loop boost control with the Xede.
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