Want Launch Control? Do It Yourself
Originally Posted by jj_008
Try this Jeff. It "should" work so let me know.
Try this one...
Last edited by x99percent; Jan 11, 2006 at 06:33 AM.
Originally Posted by x99percent
I don't think that's going to work... where does "User 4" come from? ...and you've got two things pointing to "Freq0 Out".
Try this one...
Try this one...
I'll give it a shot tonight. Hoping the car isn't missing any maps. I noticed in my older pre-SMART maps there is a knock, absolute 0-20% map.
Also what did the Fuel Threshold map do in the old set?
Also what did the Fuel Threshold map do in the old set?
Last edited by Jeff_Jeske; Jan 11, 2006 at 07:54 AM.
Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
I'll give it a shot tonight. Hoping the car isn't missing any maps. I noticed in my older pre-SMART maps there is a knock, absolute 0-20% map.
How is your knock signal wired on your car? AFAIK, if it passes through the Xede, then a map is needed for it... even if it's just a blank map.
I had smart for awhile but "it just wasn't for me" so I am back to base configuration.
Its odd that you say you need a map for it.....because the people that never purchased SMART and only upgraded from V2 to V3 they haven't rewired anything but are still using the zero'd out SMART maps without the KNOCK map.
Its odd that you say you need a map for it.....because the people that never purchased SMART and only upgraded from V2 to V3 they haven't rewired anything but are still using the zero'd out SMART maps without the KNOCK map.
Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
Its odd that you say you need a map for it.....because the people that never purchased SMART and only upgraded from V2 to V3 they haven't rewired anything but are still using the zero'd out SMART maps without the KNOCK map.

I just remember reading something like that a while back (signals just passing through need a map), but I guess it is no longer an issue in newer firmware..? ...or was it *ever* an issue?
I'm glad Shiv released the new maps and I'm glad they upgraded to V3 but I sure wish I could find more information about what the car really needs to function safely.
Does it need a fuel threshold map with -100 across the board?
Does it need a knock map with -20 across the board?
I'm cautious about just removing maps.
Does it need a fuel threshold map with -100 across the board?
Does it need a knock map with -20 across the board?
I'm cautious about just removing maps.
Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
I'm glad Shiv released the new maps and I'm glad they upgraded to V3 but I sure wish I could find more information about what the car really needs to function safely.
Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
Does it need a fuel threshold map with -100 across the board?
If you have the logic "rerouted" correctly, what's the point of having a fuel threshold map if you're not running SMART?
Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
Does it need a knock map with -20 across the board?
Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
I'm cautious about just removing maps.
Look at the summary info.
Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
What did the knock map do in the first place?
The knock map is set up for a range of 0-20% absolute output (still on a 0-5V scale?)... and the map is filled with "20.0". If true, this would effectively disable the knock sensor.

...OR...
Maybe it's increasing the knock signal 20% across the board. This makes a bit more sense...
Last edited by x99percent; Jan 11, 2006 at 01:16 PM.
Just a follow-up on these maps......
So the above NO-SMART map works like a charm. But even with the smaller maps I still have to wait a few second for the XEDE to boot or the car runs a default map.
Anyway I thought I would attach my dyno tuned V390 map here as well. On the dyno I sniffed the V390-2005-93 and V390-2003-93 maps and both were way too lean and a tad too aggressive on timing. Both down low and up high the AFR went above 12:1 which didn't make me feel comfortable at all. A few tweaks here and there I managed to keep a rock solid 11.5:1 AFR and avoid all knock even on back to back runs.
I'm not sure what the other fellas with 2003's and 10.5 hotsides are doing but the 2005 map was WAY TOO LEAN for me. The 2003 map was safer but still produced some knock up top.
At least you can take a looks and see how this compares to your maps whether they are custom or standard.
So the above NO-SMART map works like a charm. But even with the smaller maps I still have to wait a few second for the XEDE to boot or the car runs a default map.
Anyway I thought I would attach my dyno tuned V390 map here as well. On the dyno I sniffed the V390-2005-93 and V390-2003-93 maps and both were way too lean and a tad too aggressive on timing. Both down low and up high the AFR went above 12:1 which didn't make me feel comfortable at all. A few tweaks here and there I managed to keep a rock solid 11.5:1 AFR and avoid all knock even on back to back runs.
I'm not sure what the other fellas with 2003's and 10.5 hotsides are doing but the 2005 map was WAY TOO LEAN for me. The 2003 map was safer but still produced some knock up top.
At least you can take a looks and see how this compares to your maps whether they are custom or standard.


