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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Because I only add in 2-3 degrees of timing at WOT with race gas. In the 4000-4700rpm range, one could add in as much as 5-6 degrees if he felt so inclined. And since there is only 2-4 degrees of advance in the first place, the extra 5-6 degs will make a huge difference. And it would add another 20-30lb-ft of torque. But in road racing applications, that midrange would get a little unstable if subject to constant heat loading. Same reason why I rarely run more than 25psi on the stock turbo when it could run as much as 30psi (in the midrange) if one were to really crank things up. Basically it's a trade off between performance and longevity/safety margin. I tend to drive cars hard. Not as hard as chronohunter, but still pretty hard. Heck, all of us here at Vishnu track their cars religiously. So we like to be a little bit extra safe at times. No fun worrying about your engine when you're trying to make a clean pass -Shiv
Shiv, Good to see you in this thread, Please help answer these three things for me......

Are the current posted maps road race (lapping day) safe?

Using the current maps, is the -4 fuel, zero timing, max boost still conservative on 100 octane?

If we feel inclined, can we use positive timing values in the timing map? Reason I ask is because some of use run C16 every once in awhile and I'm sure we can get more timing out of that fuel.
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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I'm way below the curve re: this conversation but I've got a question:

Stage 1+ is advertised to make 390 hp. I've read that we should expect 20% loss to the wheels.

I've only got a minor in Math but this doesn't add up.

What am I missing?
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Well ..... Dyno's lie..... That and different elevations, weather, and various stages of tune definately make different cars read different HP.

A trap speed is a fairly good indicator of HP but you still battle with conditions and geography.

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cj8718
I'm way below the curve re: this conversation but I've got a question:

Stage 1+ is advertised to make 390 hp. I've read that we should expect 20% loss to the wheels.

I've only got a minor in Math but this doesn't add up.

What am I missing?
Actually 320 whp on Shiv's Dyno is closer to 360+ whp on a Dynojet. My Stage 3 on 100 oct put down 390whp on Shiv's dyno but 450+ on a Dynojet. The car in question is well over 400 bhp on 100 oct and close to 390 bhp on 91 oct.
 




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