Ludi, I beg to differ, a well setup 50 trim should make a fair bit more on pump gas-

Thats a 2.0 50 TTrix 50 trim on pump.

Scorke

 

^ I think that guy had a lot more work done besides the turbo.

I'd like to hear some input from Shiv since he'll probably be tuning the damn thing. Now I need to figure out if I should stay with the reflashing or go to a piggy back. Is there any way to have two maps with reflashing that can be changed by a switch, or would I manually have to load each map with a laptop?

 

Is there anybody that is running a 3076/3071/50 trim that doesn't have a lot of work done besides the turbo?

Scorke

 

Well a $950 huge intake mani is a big help! Noize's car is one of the only ones I've seen that have the bare minimum but still make great power. Is the car a freak or is it the ninja tuning combined with a great setup?

 

"Stealth" is relative. I have a 6 month old daughter and don't want a super loud car. My Vishnu kit is no louder than any stock turboed Evo with a turbo-back, and I have the TaipanXP cat-back, which is the second quietest exhaust I know of. Its substantially quieter than the Buschur with the bigger Magnaflow (marketed as their quiet exhaust) that I picked up shortly after I first bought this car.

The AMS kitted cars I've seen you can hear from a mile away. I'm not talking loud, I'm talking blow the windows out of the apartment complex/set off every car alarm in a 2 mile radius/make the Police that pull you over die from decibel overdose LOUD. To some, what I've just described it harmonic nirvana. To my old azz, its a friggin' nightmare.

 

Shat, its not a freak. Its a Friday car at best. Its always been about 10-15whp lower than the strongest Evos at all the dyno days we do. My friend with this same kit made 351pump before it was on my car.

There was also room for more power on race gas, but I chicken wussed out and told Shiv to stop. It was getting close, but I bet it had 415 easy, it not 420.

 

If you get an v550, you need an XEDE. A reflash won't cut it for multiple maps.

 

IF you are going to do it, do it right! it's not like you are driving a $500 civic. THen don't do a manifold, yes AMS cars you will know it when you hear it. Each to his own, you can have 2 ecu's when doing a flash and the chose between the two maps.

It sounds like you have already made up your mind, so good luck.

 

This was done with a very conservative tune (11:1 a/f I think), 90 degree day and humid as hell. Also, only 22psi. Look at all the other cars being tuned and posting graphs, they are always on more boost. I wanted something conservative. It's not an all out race car.

 

I dont understand what you're trying to imply with this commment but I'm not the kind of guy who does ANYTHING half assed. IMO less is more in almost every case. The less you do, the less chance you have of something failing or going awry. So I don't want to change anything that isn't necessary. To me the VSR manifold is a waste unless you're going all out building a drag/dyno queen. On a street/daily driver set up I think its a waste of money, especially on a kit like the 50trim or the gt3071. And no I havent even come close to deciding on which set up to run. I may just stay at a custom tuned stg.1 set up until more info is available on the IX's running cams and bigger turbos.

 

[QUOTE=Noize
The AMS kitted cars I've seen you can hear from a mile away. I'm not talking loud, I'm talking blow the windows out of the apartment complex/set off every car alarm in a 2 mile radius/make the Police that pull you over die from decibel overdose LOUD. To some, what I've just described it harmonic nirvana. To my old azz, its a friggin' nightmare. [/QUOTE]



Why would the AMS kit be so much louder?? Is the intake or the header the cause?

 

^^ It's probably the header. My car was loud as f***! ... although part of that was the baffling on the Magnaflow being shot. It's better now, but still fairly loud.

I don't necessarily agree that a XEDE is required to tune a Vishnu stage 2. A flash should handle the setup without any issues, especially with the injector scaling features unlocked through ECUflash. However, a XEDE will make it a lot easier to switch maps and also makes it fairly easy to adjust your boost for varying temperatures (read: turn down boost in winter).

Not sure why anyone would consider the VSR intake to be a waste. It's a fairly cost effective upgrade ($950 for ~+25wtq across most of the powerband for the turbos we're discussing).

Might want to do the cams before doing a turbo upgrade and throw in a racegas map for the current setup. It's easy enough to swap maps on the stock ECU with a laptop, or get a second ECU.

l8r)

 

I think a turbo upgrade is best handled with everything else in place. No matter what power you make you're going to get used to it. I went from 300whp-330-360 and now to hopefull ~500whp or so dynojet in a matter of 6 mos. Only reason I'm stepping up to a turbo upgrade now is that I've gone as far as I can on my present setup. As a driver I would not want to go from stock - 500+whp in a night.

 

I also would like to see detailed info regarding parts included and total price installed to be the guinea pig for IX 3071 install (assume the customer has a TBE already).

I might just take this Vishnu turbo kit down for us IX owners.

 

Part of the reason why AMS cars are loud is the fact that you have to use there downpipe, header and catback. There catback stock is pretty quite but once you have cams and a built car with a turbo kit on it. When that thing opens up it is LOUD! WHen I get my car back i will try to post an idle sound clip and a fly by.