So I know I'm upgrading the suspension soon, but I'm still confused about who's setup is best (I know, I know). So I posted a thread here: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hreadid=223414

But I wanted to ask the Vishnu guys specifically:
- What is the difference between your setup and Muellerized Ohlins?
- Is there a shop you recommend in Texas that can install your Ohlins setup?

Thanks!

Luffy

 

The vishnu setup comes with all the necessary hardware. I'm not sure of Mueller's setup includes camber plates, bushings, top hats, etc.

More than anything, what you are paying for is the research vishnu and chronohunter did on valving and springrates. You can go to any good suspension shop and get ohlin R/T at a slightly better price, but it would be difficult to duplicate the work they've put in tuning the application -- especially without a big tire budget and a shock dyno.

Where in texas?

d

 

I'm in central texas, so I'm equidistant from Dallas, Austin/San Antonio and Houston. Any suggestions? Are there any Vishnu certified suspension installers around?

 

First post what your goals are with the car. How often you plan on tracking it, what tracks, what events etc. Then look out for suggestions. Right off the bat I'd say you might be aiming high going with Ohlins...but of course you might be a professional Evo driver and I would not know that!
Install is easy, dialing them in is the tough part and will also vary on where you drive it...you dont want to adjust them all the time.

 

I am not one who thinks just because the driver doesnt have much experience that they won't feel good stuff and should only by cheap/bad stuff. You don't have to be a expert driver to appreciate a good suspension especially one that also offers a very good street ride. If anything the car is easier to drive for the novice and expert alike. Also, they come completely "dialed in" with all the information given so there is absolutely no guesswork or R&D required (we've done the R&D for you, that's the whole point of our stuff). Any competent race shop can handle the install and the required cornerweighting. Most people do the install themselves (a good afternoons work the first time) and then drive it to the race shop (carefully!) for the alignment and cornerweighting...

 

Haha! No, definitely not a professional race driver!

As far as my goals, I want something that I don't have to mess with! I want to install and go!

So I'm guessing from the responses that there isn't really a certified or recommended installer in the Texas area??? Because I'd rather pay a professional to install it than try it myself!

 

Installing coilovers is cake, setting them up is the hard part.

Scorke

 

There are race shops with the necessary expertise all over the country. If you would like me to "qualify" a local shop in your area for you I will happily do that (just pm me a number). It's the standard operating procedure that they use to set-up there race cars that they'll use on your evo (normal for them).

take care,
Paul

 

The buyer is asking for advice, first question you need to ask is where your going to drive it before you can proceed with suspension decisions. Never met a set of adjustable coil overs that did not need tweaking after install.

 

I agree with the fact you need to qualify them (you want to ask questions) but the issue I have with what you said in you original post is that you contradict that and spread some misinformation. You say that he may be "aiming high" and imply you need to be a pro driver to appreciate Vishnu Ohlins(!). I wonder is this based on testing you have done on our stuff (if so carry on) or is it based on things you read on the Internet or based on other people's product? (if so please stop making assumptions and spreading misinformation about our product)

As for the coilovers needing tweeking, NO. They come with everything from every individual piece and spec for that piece, you don't need to do any click/alignment/ride height testing/guessing it is all provided. I have proved this many times over by driving several Vishnu Ohlins cars all over the country and they all handle the same (which is to say wonderful ).

 

Careful. That Paul guy is a real firecracker!

 

never assume, this is the internet, while sarcasm might be hard to read without being able to hear the tone of ones voice you should also not jump to conclusions. if i believe you need to be a 'pro' to use Ohlins I would have stated that as such.

aiming high in that if he drives to work and back it might be overkill. hes asking for opinions, I gave him mine. You attacked it. Rather than attack it give him your opinion. ask 10 different suspension experts and you will get 10 different answers. Neither of which is necessarily incorrect.

And if you represent Vishnu (which I must admit it reads that way somewhat) then perhaps vs. attacking posts perhaps do it another way for example 'We believe its a fantastic setup for 95% street 5% track because......' and list the reasons why you picked that valving and spring rate etc. then we can all learn something.

 

Uh, I think you did...

"Right off the bat I'd say you might be aiming high going with Ohlins...but of course you might be a professional Evo driver and I would not know that!"


This is my point exactly...you gave him your opinion on our suspension without ever having driven a car with them or even riding in a car with them (you see why I might be a bit testy!). I would love to spend my time just giving him my opinion which I have done in my responses but I must also spend time correcting you! I can't let misinformation slide.

I would recommend it BTW even to someone who never drives at the track, it makes the car much more enjoyable on the road (but you wouldn't know that...). I'm not saying your not a smart guy, I'm saying unless you intimately know the particular product don't generalize (using your knowledge about other suspension systems) and volunteer your opinion because you introduce the possibility of hurting not helping (as in this case).

I do represent Vishnu as you said (though maybe not after this ), I am the guy who did the actual driving and developed the proprietary valving which is at the heart of the system (and exclusive to the Vishnu Ohlins). I did all this with Vishnu's help and the hard work of some talented engineers from CSU University. There are several threads that chronicles our development progress over the last couple of years (if you're into suspension they make a good read).

I hope you see my point and don't have any hard feelings so we can get back to our regularly scheduled programming

 

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Thanks for the info and helping us get back on topic