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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Q: How can I disable the timing Map and still make the car start?

I still run the XEDE for a boost control I like the stability of the XEDE boost plus I can store 2 boost maps. I have all fuel and timing are zero'd out. I feel the timing signal replication is limiting the amount of timing I can run.


How can I make timing pass trough...I tried disabling by deleting the timing map...the car would not start. I jumpered to bypass XEDE the crank in/crank out wires, car would start but Xede would go into fault mode and no boost.

I don't want my Xede become a paperweight .
Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Interesting. You say you just bypassed the CAS signal in the Xede harness? Did you check if there's a potential between Xede ground and ECU ground?

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by donour
Did you check if there's a potential between Xede ground and ECU ground?

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How do I check that?

I took the crank in and crank out (pins 8 and 5 of the grey connector) and bridged them together. Car starts fine but XEDE misses the signal and goes blinking orange. There must be a way of doing it via software but I don't know enough about programming. This is the contents of the latest Pattern file

Recipe File for XEDE TSP
------------------------
[File Info]
Original Date=5 Aug 2004
Original Author=RD
Revision=V1.1
; V1.0 5 Aug 2004: Prototype; no versioning adhered to really
; V1.1 3 Apr 2006: Add wired bypass lines
Revision Date=3 Apr 2006
Copyright=(C) 2006 ChipTorque

[Vehicle Info]
;This info is stored in EE; total < 32 characters
Waveform=4-Even, Hall Rising
Vehicles=Mitsubishi 4
[TSP Setup]
Prescale=36
Shift per Change=1
: 0.1 deg
Edges per Change=200
: shift by 0.1 deg every 20 degrees
Active Edge=Rising
Error Detection Enabled=0
Error Tolerance=25
: percent
Pattern Sync Address=1
Sync Pulse Count=2
: = pulses - 1 in this case
: For PP-only case
Sync Method=Pulses
: Either 'Comparison' or 'Pulses'
Comparison Type=PP
: Either 'PP' or 'PW'
Greater Than Next=0
Greater Than Previous=0
Sync Threshold 0.25=0
Sync Threshold 0.5=0
Sync Threshold 1=0
Input Hysteresis=10
: Must be < 127
Minimum Pulse Width=10
: In prescaled clock cycles
[Simulator Setup]
Playback Rate=100
Run Simulator=1
Invert Output=1
Wire to Output=0
Wire to Input=0
[Startup Control]
; This is the RPM level that must be reached before the xede will change over after
; startup
Startup RPM=1500
; Enter next line in seconds
Startup Delay=.5
; Enter 0 or 1 (yes or no) for next line; Needs XMap3.0.3.6 or later and XProc V3.1.14 or later..
Use Wired Bypass=0

[Pattern]
; Use PPx (Pulse-Pulse), and PWx (Pulse Width); amounts = degrees
; Max pairs = 128
PP1=1800
PW1=700
PP2=1800
PW2=700
; End of file.


Or maybe if I bridged the in and out in the xede side? I just don't want to fry anything.

Thanks for your help d
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Pull out the crank out wire out of the XEDE connector, and then wire it to the crank in wire. This will create a situation where you will just be tapping off of the RPM signal so the XEDE will go online, but obviously, will still be pass through on timing.
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Just to be clear, I leave the crank in wire connected to the xede and splice the out to the in wire?
Thanks Dustin!
Old Dec 15, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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IT FREAKING WORKED! Thanks
 
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