Shiv, check this out.
Originally posted by Dave
Hey Chrono is Pettiford Go 4 It still running around Mead and Second Creek? I use to manage the Service Dept. @ Boulder Yamaha. Yes, there is a race track,actually (2) in your backyard!!
Hey Chrono is Pettiford Go 4 It still running around Mead and Second Creek? I use to manage the Service Dept. @ Boulder Yamaha. Yes, there is a race track,actually (2) in your backyard!!
and Second Creek is due to close in a year or two because of encroachment but they are already talking about it's replacement. I don't know "Pettiford Go 4 " I've only lived in Boulder for a few years and all of my work takes me out of Colorado typically (or is that the testing I do in the privacy of my "bubble bath" according to spool above) 
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Originally posted by i_love_spool
Correct the Rover K series is the REAL Lotus engine, and as for buzzy, do some research and find out where the Rover K revs to and where the Toyota engine revs too and imagine which one is going to be buzzing more....here's a hint, 190 bhp @ 7800 rpm let's compare that to the redline of the K series, well it was anywhere between 5-7500 rpms. Well the "new" Elise is making all it's power in the top-end, with no torque and the max-power is almost 8k. You obviously know nothing about engines at all. But hey, a Rover engine at 5k is buzzier than a Celica engine at 7800k...because you say so, because you've heard one before :P Light years ahead in Power? Hmmmm last I checked there were Elises running around with those "Buzzy" K series producing 215bhp.
Keep trying....
Correct the Rover K series is the REAL Lotus engine, and as for buzzy, do some research and find out where the Rover K revs to and where the Toyota engine revs too and imagine which one is going to be buzzing more....here's a hint, 190 bhp @ 7800 rpm let's compare that to the redline of the K series, well it was anywhere between 5-7500 rpms. Well the "new" Elise is making all it's power in the top-end, with no torque and the max-power is almost 8k. You obviously know nothing about engines at all. But hey, a Rover engine at 5k is buzzier than a Celica engine at 7800k...because you say so, because you've heard one before :P Light years ahead in Power? Hmmmm last I checked there were Elises running around with those "Buzzy" K series producing 215bhp.
Keep trying....
The Elise is going to be an awesome car with another 70 horsepower and a real gearbox unlike the butter churner it currently has. There is also a good reason that Shiv is getting one........ 
Brett Payne
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Originally posted by i_love_spool
Try drawing better analogies next time there ARE other cars that are compareable to an Elise, you just aren't informed enough to know it.
As for the whole Lotus will fly around ANY racetrack faster than an EVO and on most tracks quicker than a Z06....I bet you speak from experience, Mr. Car-Tester-Type-Guy from Boulder, Co. Lots of Evo's and Z06's flying around tracks out in Colorado! Bet you have your own little version of Laguna Seca in your backyard! So tell me where's all this "in-car race experience" come from? Your own personal in-car experience with all three lined up? or did you have a bath and bring the hot wheels in the tub with you and the elise got stuck in the drain the fastest? No one has put a Lotus Elise head to head with any other car available in America. But I guess you must have in your own secret little Road America.
Defend your silly little Else....because the funniest part about it is you actually think it's worth $38,000!
Try drawing better analogies next time there ARE other cars that are compareable to an Elise, you just aren't informed enough to know it.
As for the whole Lotus will fly around ANY racetrack faster than an EVO and on most tracks quicker than a Z06....I bet you speak from experience, Mr. Car-Tester-Type-Guy from Boulder, Co. Lots of Evo's and Z06's flying around tracks out in Colorado! Bet you have your own little version of Laguna Seca in your backyard! So tell me where's all this "in-car race experience" come from? Your own personal in-car experience with all three lined up? or did you have a bath and bring the hot wheels in the tub with you and the elise got stuck in the drain the fastest? No one has put a Lotus Elise head to head with any other car available in America. But I guess you must have in your own secret little Road America.
Defend your silly little Else....because the funniest part about it is you actually think it's worth $38,000!
Brett Payne
Vishnu Performance.
Originally posted by DSMBRETT
Having driven the Elise with the 120 horsepower K-series motor and the Celica with the 180 horsepower motor I know which one I want in my Elise! The Elise is going to be an awesome car with another 70 horsepower and a real gearbox unlike the butter churner it currently has. There is also a good reason that Shiv is getting one........
Brett Payne
Vishnu Performance
Having driven the Elise with the 120 horsepower K-series motor and the Celica with the 180 horsepower motor I know which one I want in my Elise!
The Elise is going to be an awesome car with another 70 horsepower and a real gearbox unlike the butter churner it currently has. There is also a good reason that Shiv is getting one........ Brett Payne
Vishnu Performance
? Is it as cramped or more than a miata?
Originally posted by DSMBRETT
As for the Elise being worth $38,000 I think Lotus will sell every single one that they bring to the US. I don't know of anyone that has actually driven an Elise and been dissapointed, even with only 120 horsepower. It is simply one of the best drivers cars available.
Brett Payne
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As for the Elise being worth $38,000 I think Lotus will sell every single one that they bring to the US. I don't know of anyone that has actually driven an Elise and been dissapointed, even with only 120 horsepower. It is simply one of the best drivers cars available.
Brett Payne
Vishnu Performance.
Originally posted by Dave
Pettiford Go 4 It Services ran a track school at both of those tracks, allowing you to get an SCCA or MRA License. You could also rent a race bike or car to earn your certification.
Pettiford Go 4 It Services ran a track school at both of those tracks, allowing you to get an SCCA or MRA License. You could also rent a race bike or car to earn your certification.
In response to I_LOVE_SPOOL, he definately haven't read this article from ROAD & TRACK.
THE GREAT GRIP ARTICLE
I was hoping to own an Elise since their first appearance on the european market. I have a chance to test drove the 111S version in here. I am still impressed and I have ordered mine a year ago. I have either owned or driven extensively on the track in all the vehicles that were featured in the R&T article (except the Modena 360). I think the Elise is no doubt the worth its price!
Elise is the most affordable track car for the street whereas the EVO is the ultimate most bang for your bucks street fighter.
THE GREAT GRIP ARTICLE
I was hoping to own an Elise since their first appearance on the european market. I have a chance to test drove the 111S version in here. I am still impressed and I have ordered mine a year ago. I have either owned or driven extensively on the track in all the vehicles that were featured in the R&T article (except the Modena 360). I think the Elise is no doubt the worth its price!
Elise is the most affordable track car for the street whereas the EVO is the ultimate most bang for your bucks street fighter.
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It's so funny that you never know who you are speaking to on the internet
When Brett told me who chronohunter really is, I was shocked! Needless to say, i defer all driving/handling/racing questions to him
cheers,
shiv
When Brett told me who chronohunter really is, I was shocked! Needless to say, i defer all driving/handling/racing questions to him
cheers,
shiv
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Chrono, I went through his school to get my MRA license. At the time,we had an amaccs and wera team that we ran through Boulder Yamaha. John Hopperstad and Christion Gardner were our two riders. We got the first OWO1's even before Vance And Hines. I also sold a M5 to one of the instructors for the BMW school @ Steamboat
Originally posted by Dave
I also sold a M5 to one of the instructors for the BMW school @ Steamboat
I also sold a M5 to one of the instructors for the BMW school @ Steamboat
. Those winter driving school guys are top notch, If you ever want to have an amazing time in a car go to that school 
www.winterdrive.com
Those OWO1's were incredible bikes, I wonder where they are now (convert one for road use maybe?) Take care
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My favorite ride up there was Boulder Canyon to Nederland for a short blast. For a longer ride, up to Lyons and then Estes Park. My buddy Bill Peoples owns Twin Peaks Cycles. Also other friends of mine, Rod Brueske and his buddies run Tri City . I miss it up there this time of year. But after Halloween, you can keep the snow.