The Xflash ($399 after Jan.) is double the price of Al's dyno flash ($200). Both prices are non custom dyno tuned. I plan on doing my piggyback or flash in the spring.

I am wondering if there is anything technically different between the two flashes or its technologies.

Please ignore the obvious tuning approaches and methologies. This is not to be tuner bashing thread please. I just want to know if there are any differences other than the software that accounts for the extra $200.

One obvious difference is that I will be able to buy the Xflasher for another $300 or, right? What will the flasher allow me to do? Just flash different maps into my ECU or will I be able to change parameters on my own with the Flasher. Will the maps be free (like the Exede maps) or will I have to buy them (as with Dynoflash)

How much will subsequent map flashes cost? That is, say I get a flash for the stock EVO, then upgrade exahust, how much will the proper exhust upgrade flash cost?

Also, how much will it cost to have the Xflash dyno tuned to my car next time Vish is in the north east. I know of a VW/Audi shop in Philly with a Mustang load bearing dyno that I would prefer to have my car dynotuned on as opposed to some dynojet dyno.

Lastly, what are the advantages and disadvantages of the Xflash + Xflasher + dyno tune as compared to XEDE + dyno tune. I think by the time all is said and done, both will cost around $1000. So, which do I pick? Which will be a better return of investment. Which will be more flexible? I have no plans going crazy with mods on this car. I doubt I will ever go beyond the Stage II mods. Does Xflash control boost or will I need to get an MBC/EBC?

I am leaning towrds the Xflash as opposed to the Dynoflash even though it costs more, mainly because the programming was done on a load bearing dyno as opposed to a dynojet. Anyway, do not go into tuner bashings in this thread please.

Thanks in advance.

 

Honestly, if you're going to be doing your own flashes and what not, I'd suggest just going with the e-manage. It'd end up close to the same price as the flash + programmer and you'd be able to adjust absolutely everything with finer detail and more options built in.

 

What advantages does it have over the Xede setup (If I were to have the XFlash, obviously)?

 

e-manage has ignition control, fuel control, 512 adjustment points and unlimited maps, change from maf to map sensors, built in datalogger.

the e-manage is for those that are really serious about knowing hnow to tune and tuning their own car. If you just want to play with it slightly, the xede is probably a better match, and a bit cheaper overall

 

HUH??XEDE Technical Specifications

1200 possible adjustments
0.1% accuracy on MAF and MAP adjustments
0.1 degree accuracy on timing adjustments
Accurate reproduction of reluctor type timing signals, not just of triggering edge
Fully sealed, rugged, and lightweight housing
Support for hall and reluctor type crank and / or cam timing signals
Support for analog or frequency MAF and MAP / load signals
One additional 10-bit analog input
One auxiliary digital input / output
Internal storage space for up to 12 tuning maps
Self-configurable load axis, input and output variables, adjustment range, and math function for each map Two high-current Pulse Width Modulation outputs
Remotely installable bi-color status LED

Not to mention independantly firing the FBC and RPM dependant BC
Still sratching head Maybe you didnt know much about the Xede??

 

I actually didn't see all those specs on it before. From what I had seen it was just a basic power programmer. Sounds pretty good actually, so I'm going to take back my statement and put it as good if not maybe better then the e-manage.

I'll have to take a strong look when I go to decide on mine now, thanks for making my life harder

 

How do you get it to store 12 maps, I thought it only had the 2 you could toggle between?

Lacoste

 

There are many more features and tools that the xede is designed for that havent been totally activated by Vishnu yet. You can only store 2 maps right now. There will be tuner tools possibly a road dyno, live data logging/recording, ect.

 

Could someone from Vishnu answer xtnct's questions?

Xflasher cost $300????... Isn't that a bit too much?

 

?? Not to me you can flash and mapswitch and tune any time. Every other vendor charges extra for another flash. Use it once and it paid for itself

 

Hmm... only if the maps are free though.... according to
Vishnu website... reflash is free if you're buying Vishnu
performance components...

Even so... $300 is quite alot...

 

Maps are free

 

MP5,

So in order to switch map with the Xflash, do you need the computer to be plugged in, or does it gets control thru a toggle switch like a XEDE?

 

Map switching with the XFlash will involve turning a knob on an outboard piece of electronics (XFlash Tuner). This will plug into your factory ECU harness.

shiv

 

Shiv,

For the eventual stage 2 users, the XEDE/Xflash is the only way to go, correct?