Your really something man- but I figured out your problem ...............you cant read. Never would I claim that an EM system no matter how neanderthal wouldnt need to be tuned. Never did I claim that the cromagnon SAFC controlled boost Of course it doesnt (In fact four posts ago I claimed you were using plumbers parts for an MBC). The safe power comes with the resolution and power of the tool (knock attenuation, RPMdependant boost, timing control , tons of load cells, Though 8 is too many for you.
Buschurs exhaust is made from pipes from home depot I had one I then promptly sold it

Its hard I know but ponder the question (nude on the pot if you like) that the factory intake is no restriction for a big 16 g.

 

You aren't looking for answers because if you were you would have found them. The mechanism of the XEDE and the advantages of it and load-bearing dyno tuning have been discussed repeatedly here and elsewhere. It's to the point where I have to wonder whether anyone still angrily confused about it is in denial or just tragically illiterate. At the very least if you cannot grasp why an S-AFC isn't going to give you the flexibility of an XEDE; if you cannot grasp why you don't want to couple timing advance to fuel tuning, then I fear sharing the road with you because I fear you may be blind.

Like a booster chair?

I remember about 10 years ago I was looking for some computer speakers and some guy wanted to make a me a great deal on a 400W amp/speaker set-up ... for about $30. I almost **** myself and jumped on it and only later would I learn what PMPO measurements were good for. The lesson learned there was that anyone can make impressive power for a fraction of a second.

If you really want answers, you're going to have to look at more than just maxima; more than just area under the curve. And you're going to have to want to hear them.

 

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How adorable put it in your sig if it makes you feel good about yourself and want to feel accepted.

 

David is a nice guy and I have nothing bad to say about him. So what Buschur parts do you have on your car?

 

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What gives a **** John Force has a fast car. What have YOU done?

 

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Okay. Our favorite Suzuki salesman philosopher has been thread banned. Arguing with him, and Turbo Weapon, is a lost cause. Can't argue with someone who doesn't comprehend your argument or can't accept the fact that he just might be wrong. Oh well... it was interesting reading their posts. Kinda like watching a train wreck happen right in front of you. EZ and MP5 deserve an award for the most amusing posts I've ever read

Cheers
shiv

 

I dont remember a single post about head gaskets here. Did you use a SAFC on that civic?

Keep in mind John Force doesen't develop the parts and tune his own car. Wrong

Lastly your a very concrete thinker I would expect a more dialectic veiw and a piece of metal on the end of a stick might be a good comparison for 8 channels of fuel correction but not for tuning a car

 

I don't recall any comments I made regarding S-AFC induced head gaskets or engine failure. As for your first sentence, you need only to look at the dyno results from the last tuning trip to CO where the XEDE-equipped cars were making 20-35lb-ft more torque all through out the midrange than the S-AFC car while exhibiting good run-to-run consistency.

This is not surprising given the fact that the XEDE, like all good examples of engine management, offers ignition control. Only someone with an incomplete understanding of basic engine theory would argue that ignition timing control is an unneccessary "frill" when it comes to tuning an engine.

Regards,
Shiv

PS. You are banned once again

 

Dave Buschur's RWD Talon uses a 2 speed powerglide transmission with a very lossy high stall torque converter. He doesn't use a lock-up converter, so there is a ton of driveline loss. More than you will ever see with a manual transmission, even with an AWD drivetrain attached to it.

He seems to do ok, though.

Have you ever seen the car run, Shiv? It is a sight to see for sure.

 

Hese not knocking it shape if anything hese complimenting. I think the purpose built BR drag car does what its supposed to do very well.

 

Sounds like his boost controller was acting up. The AFC has no bearing on boost. It strictly modulates the MAF frequency. Same thing that the XEDE does, though the XEDE does quite a bit more.

I used an AFC on my car for a couple years before DSMLink came out. It worked great. Got my car running 12.5s. It was easy to tune on the fly. But it had some side affects, just as any MAF frequency adjuster will have. I much prefer tuning inside the ECU.