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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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Good point...

Originally posted by CarbonFibre
Isn't that because they didn't have an intercooler replacement for sale yet? I'm sure they would have used it had it been available at the time.
That, indeed, could have been one good reason.

Nevertheless, they did trew flowers to the stock intercooler, emphasizing that "it was surprisingly efficient and capable", and could handle the power rating that was given to the Kansai kit.
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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HKS Japan has a EVO VIII IC but Kansai doesn't. My feelings on IC's is they may make a few extra HP and lower intake temps but watchout for how much weight you add to your front end with them. Remember adding weight kills HP.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by shiv@vishnu


Yes indeed. When dyno'd with he hood open, aftermarket open element intakes work far better than they do on the road with the hood closed. As for ram air, it takes quite a bit of velocity to get any discernible positive pressure. That said, I think the biggest advantage of the factory intake box is that it is cold-air ducted/sealed unlike most open element intakes I've seen.

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I think it would be interesting to tap a temp probe into a UICP and find out what the actual difference would be with stock/open element filters under similar driving conditions. Anyone ever try this? I mean, if we are talking about a difference of 10 deg. F or less, it’s nearly irrelevant.

I’d also like to see what the difference would be between stock, and kits with a heat shield like AEM or K&N’s Typhoon to see how much good they do.
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by value
HKS Japan has a EVO VIII IC but Kansai doesn't. My feelings on IC's is they may make a few extra HP and lower intake temps but watchout for how much weight you add to your front end with them. Remember adding weight kills HP.
****, I'm sure that 10 extra pounds is going to kill performance. Am I blind or did my other post diasppear?
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 05:56 AM
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Bah. If you add 10lbs with a FMIC, you can get rid of it elsewhere.
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 07:02 AM
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the bucshur would be offset by the little battery... if there IC weighs more than stock, I've not seen any numbers
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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Anyone verified it is 10 pounds.
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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You could e-mail dejontool and see how much his core weighs and then weigh the stock one. There is a bigger weight difference between different levels of gas in the tank.
Old Feb 2, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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Mucking with results?

More crap slinging.

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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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I suspect just as Buschur has come to embrace stainless 02 housings, Vishnu will come to embrace a larger FMIC - especially if it is designed like Buschur's in that it has less piping and fewer bends, as well as more airflow to the water radiator, even if it weighs a bit extra. Also, if the stock turbo indeed runs hot as many have stated, a larger FMIC should be especially helpful.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by davidbuschur
Mucking with results?

More crap slinging.

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No slinging here Dave. Just the truth. Dyno testing air-to-air ICs without fans is a perfect example of testing bias.

That's like dyno testing an air-to-water IC with the water pump turned off.



Another example of testing bias is your thread of your turbo kit. "Buschur Racing turbo kits & dyno numbers--94 octane, 401 whp, near stock spool up..."

When you compare the dyno results of your BR-whatever turbokit to the stock turbo, not only do you begin the runs well above both the turbos' boost threshold, you start the runs at different engine speeds. Comparing spool-up charactertics based upon the dyno results you provided is questionable, at best.

Shiv

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