Can you explain the procedure on how to do this? I would be very interested in trying this.

Thanks,

Steve

 

I switched to Pennzoil Syncromesh about a week and a half ago, car had about 3500 miles on it. After a few days there is a noticeable difference in the smoothness of shifts. The notchiness between shifts is almost gone. I'll recommend synchromesh to anyone who wants smoother shifts. -John

 

Guys, thanks for the advice. I finally got rid of my second gear grind by putting in a steel braided clutch line, a shifter base bushing kit, removing the clutch resistor, and installing a shifter cable bushing kit. I have also installed my cam gears, which gave me more power. I did a few WOT runs and the problem is gone. The clutch feels much better, almost like butter...

Gnulooks

 

I only miss 1-2 shift if I go past redline for some reason so I short shift 1st too and it works fine.

 

I have the same 2nd gear grind problem. Only under high load and high RPM. No such issue with any of my other gears. If you were to do a search on the forum you'll notice that this is not just an isolated incident... many people are experiencing this. For those with cars that don't have this grinding gear issue, please don't be so quick to jump to the conclusion that the driver of the car doesn't know how to drive or shift.

Just because your car has no problems does not mean that ALL other cars made are identical to yours and has no problem as well.

Couple guys locally have had their 5th gear and 3rd gear synchro replaced under warranty already. Both car stock and one of them pampers it like a little baby. The other drives it hard but not abusive. I have drove my hard only a few times. It's surprising that they have not had a recall on the synchro yet.

 

The 2nd gear grind issue is really two fold. I was getting it while power shifting. (IE Shift at redline while not getting off the gas with the clutch full depressed). I got it with the factory filled oil and with the redline oil. I recently changed my oil to the factory stuff again and over filled the gear box. Instead of the 3.0qt of oil recommended I'm running about 3.6 to 3.8tq. Now I have not had the 2nd gear grind and Boy have I been trying. Now my guess is that the clutch is not full disengaging. Some people reported after doing the clutch line that the 2nd gear shift is not a problem.

So I think the first thing to do is change the oil and over fill the gear box. If that does not do it then try the clutch mod. (IE braided clutch line).

Now I have talked with turbotrix and they have said that the factory boxes are out of tolerance from the factory so a thicker non-sythic would be a better for long gear box life.

Eric

 

BG is NOT the same as GM Syncromesh. The GM crap shifts well at first but goes downhill rapidly after that. But BG lasts a long time. I've used both.

However, I wouldn't recommend any of these fluids. I'd recommend using something like NEO RHD. It won't break down as much as the others.

Shift quality and gear protection are two completely different things. Just because your transmission shifts well doesn't mean that your fluid isn't allowing gear to gear transfer of metal.

 

I agree with that statement. After using red line for 4K shifting was great but the gears were not a protected as much with such a thin oil.

Eric

 

So far the thing that has me concerned is the notchyness seems to be getting worse and I get serious grinding when down shifting into first. If the problem were me I should think it wouldnt be getting worse and that I would have experienced it right away. Also, my clutch is solid and hasn't give much trouble yet. I am putting my car on blocks to begin mods so I won't be able to try the penzoil fluids until this Winter. I will be taking the trans to the shop to have it checked out and will post if anything remarkable turns up concerning the factory set up.

Having had two problems with my Eclipse ("00" gt 5spd.) trans I know it is possible to get a lemon. After the first re-build to eliminate grinding on upshifts from 1st to 2nd, I used Red line and things were good for a while. It felt slippery especially when cold. When problems with grinding on up shifts to 5th emerged my dealer sent my traans to a machine shop for its second re-build. I left the oem fluid in this time for fear of problems if I had a third episode. Needless to say I traded that car for my Evo.

 

how many qrts. again for the tranny? if I use the BG syncro? I thought it was 3? Help please!

 

3 quarts is enough...

 

anyone know the cheapest place to order BG Syncro? Thanks again for this thread...as most have beein reading, this has been happening to quite a few Evo owners

 

11.95 per quart at automotorsports.com
or lancershop.com for 3 bottles 34.95

 

Thanks for the info on overfilling the tranny. I may consider doing that soon...What possible harm from overfilling tranny, if any?