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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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Get the AMS one!!! Got bigger & stronger pump! Go look at their site.
Give me a link!
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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So you've got the

SMC kit
Aquamist kit
AMS kit

We need a pole!
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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simple decision:

(injection kit) + fail safe

(smc kit or ams kit) + aquamist dds3
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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The snow peformance kit with safeinjection is the best bang for the buck...I had smc and sold it for many reasons, couldn't be happier with the snow performance kit...
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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anybody know if the buschur kit is a knock off of one of these kits?
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultimate CC
The snow peformance kit with safeinjection is the best bang for the buck...I had smc and sold it for many reasons, couldn't be happier with the snow performance kit...
on the snow safeinjection, its 1 fixed setpoint (SI10-378cc/min), below the setpoint, the failsafe kicks in.

What happens if a car is tuned on a 7gph-441cc/min or bigger nozzle........15gph-945cc/min and the nozzle develops a "minor" clog BUT still able to flow above the setpoint, ie flow is greater than 378 but lower than 945.......

The aquamist dds3 has a user definable "safe operating window", 2 setpoints, a lower and a upper flow setpoint, outside of this window will trigger the failsafe.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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I also agree with SlowCar. As I mentionted before, Aquamist is the pioneer of failsafes. They are ahead of their time in the relation to the failsafe concept. I'm not saying that the others will not eventually "catch up", but Aquamist has been the best in the past and at the moment. I'm glad more people are finally paying attention to wanting failsafes incorperated in their water/alcohol set ups.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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The SMC may have no failsafe yet, but considering there are over 500 kits being used on evo's in the US I think its doing pretty well. I've only heard of a few cases here and there of people blowing motors on SMC kits and those cases were on the V1 kit.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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SlowCar is absolutely right. Steve makes a good point as well.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve@NoLimitmotors
The SMC may have no failsafe yet, but considering there are over 500 kits being used on evo's in the US I think its doing pretty well. I've only heard of a few cases here and there of people blowing motors on SMC kits and those cases were on the V1 kit.
a few is too many.

there are potentially 500 customers out there sitting on a time bomb....tick tick tick.......
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve@NoLimitmotors
The SMC may have no failsafe yet, but considering there are over 500 kits being used on evo's in the US I think its doing pretty well. I've only heard of a few cases here and there of people blowing motors on SMC kits and those cases were on the V1 kit.
A few........your kidding right? That's a lot!!! out of 500 kits. I don't know about you but that's like a 1% chance; too high of odds for me to be stepping in my car everyday with.

The more and more I see about water injection, it's all hype!!! The whole "it's water, it's safe for your car" is bullpoo
As many cars that have blown up over the last couple of years on it, you would think people would just use Nitrous instead and get some real power and be just as "safe" as water/methanol injection.

just my $.02
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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I know 5 locals all who have had atleast one pump fail, the people they have them last forever are the ones that barely use them, I have over 50 gallons of methanol through my evo on my snow performance kit and its still going strong...
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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the smc kit uses a flojet pump designed for 35psig usage........failure IS no surprise when they are pushed to 80-100psig.

the shurflos pumps on snows/ams other hand are made to run 100psig, all day long, all day strong
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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I have the Snow Performance kit with the Safe Injection and I couldn't be happier. Just for point of reference though a stronger pump doesn't do you any good unless you're pushing rediculous power... in fact you don't want a ton of alky/meth in the engine at all. According to Al when he tuned me with the kit this last weekend too much meth/alky isn't great for getting a good tune. A 300 psi pump is overkill... 150 shoud be all you need for the EVO.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by otbEVO
I have the Snow Performance kit with the Safe Injection and I couldn't be happier. Just for point of reference though a stronger pump doesn't do you any good unless you're pushing rediculous power... in fact you don't want a ton of alky/meth in the engine at all. According to Al when he tuned me with the kit this last weekend too much meth/alky isn't great for getting a good tune. A 300 psi pump is overkill... 150 shoud be all you need for the EVO.
Al said a lot of things, including alky injection is crap and himself jump on the bandwagon later on.....

the more methanol the better! the only downside is if your system screws up, so will your car

the higher the pressure, the better the atomization. Why is a 300psi pump overkill?
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