Oh, I confess it's an old SI unit with the label replaced. However, this one also has a flow output and is adjustable from 100 - 500ml/min FM?

 

Its a snow safeinjection with spray paint and a decal.

The same controller leaks with 100% methanol use and only covers about 10% of the causes of engine failures in meth injection kits.

If you want a band aid for an amputated leg, this is for you.

 

One thing true about the compression fittings, if you make the fitting and there is uneven force on it work they may leak.

They're made to hold pressures and work in conditions way beyond the use in this application and the leaking is easily prevented by making sure the retainer moves freely after the fit - thats it.

I am very surprised you of all people, with your exceptional level of experience and knowledge, overlooked it.

I honestly have no problems with them at all but have seen it happen and know why.

 

This is funny, now I know your edited

 

Maybe a little bit off topic, but if you are still running the stock ECU, then is there really a need for a failsafe? I had my original alkycontrol pump seals swell when running 100% methanol. I knew there was a problem immediately when my EGT were elevated and my check engine light was blinking, i.e. stock ECU pulling timing. After replacing the diaphragm, I have no issues, and continue to run 100% meth. Maybe I am one of the lucky ones? I believe meth is a band aid, but it is hard to argue with the numbers, especially with gas prices these days.

 

Good question, but what the thing will provide is a guarantee that if the system isn't reaching the flow requirement I have it set to, the WGA would receive full pressure (low boost). It also provides a logable output proportional to flow. I'm checking to see if my logger will accept an external channel with logworks, I know the XD2 does but not sure yet with LC1


Good catch, but one thing I've heard, and you might research on, is that with gasoline, EGT will first drop during a knock episode before climbing and timing has an effect on the temps. Not totally sure though

 

This is a horrible idea. You have SECONDS (maybe only 2-3 in some cases) before critical damage is done to the engine when a system fails.

Yes, there is a great need for a REAL failsafe. Unfortunately the paddle flow sensor is not a good one. Better than nothing however.

Meth injection "band aid" users will always lack the real peformance benefits that meth injected cars reap.

 

The Snow SI05 and SI10 uses this paddle meter. The controller listed on this thread uses a turbine and is much more precise, easier to use, and consistent.

No it is not a SI painted and labeled, look at a photo and compare

 

My point was not the internal component being "spun" being the deficiency. It is the function of a window voltage safeguard itself being ineffective in covering enough of the potential causes of engine failure from meth system problems to be able to sleep at night, worry free.

 

Dont you use 2 pumps for failsafe?

 

Its quite a simple part that has been produced by many others prior to "Labonte" slapping a decal on it.

You know you have a point here. I was under the impression that this had a window of high and low level much as Slowcar has been able to put together.

Fact is, I read over the original post and it does NOT. It only has a low flow adjustible threshold EXACTLY LIKE THE SNOW PERFORMANCE SAFEINJECTION.

Its garbage and just another place for two additional leaks and 5-10% failsafe protection (if the unit is set up correctly). Which means 90-95% of the time you risk engine damage from this false sense of security.

If an evolutionm.net member is looking for a safeguard for their meth injection system. Do yourself a favor and LOOK ELSEWHERE.

With more experience in Evolution meth injection than just about anyone in the forums, we have tested and tried just about every system and safeguard available in the marketplace. Just because someone else brands a product that works the same as others, does not mean we need to physically test it. The concept is exactly the same as other primitive units that have been in the marketplace for some time now and/or have been discontinued.

It was an assumption of design. Turbine/paddle/pinwheel, pinwheel spinning around... Blah, blah, the concept is the same. Something spins and the spin speed outputs voltage based on spin speed.

The solenoid is a moot point as one is not represented in your information. The topic of discussion is the box being advertised by you.

The line configuration is just as poor with line in and line out on the same side just like the safeinjection. There is no difference.

I don't need to convince myself that it is garbage. It is garbage, is a copycat system painted with what appears to be the same paint I get from advance auto to paint wheels graphite gray. The box concept is exactly the same as snow performance as many other posters have intelligently pointed out.

We have never deviated from our stance that these boxes are worthless.

Anyone interested in adding something LIKE this to their existing meth injection system is much better off contacting SlowCar "Abner" regarding his system and how he sourced and implemeted his flow sensor into his zeitronix system capable of programmable BOOST, AFR, AND TPS SAFEGUARD in addition to HIGH EGT PROBE TEMPERATURE SAFEGUARD ALSO.

This system is the only proven bulletproof system available in the marketplace at this time. If anyone has seen Slowcar's system, it is a work of art and much effort has gone into it to insure it was as safe as technology is able to make it.

Great work Abner...

 

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Logs to the video above

 

What do these logs have to do with anything?

 

You are very persistent with your opinion. Is there a reason for the strongly biased campaign? I have an idea, but if not then maybe you didn't understand the log, and this may help:
AFR (purple)
2 byte air lsb (channel hidden for clarity)
2 byte air msb (channel hidden for clarity)
2 byte load lsb (channel hidden for clarity)
2 byte load msb (channel hidden for clarity)
TPS % (red-orange)
H2O temp (light blue)
RPM (brown)
IPW (violet)
Time (not sure what color that is)
Knock (dark green)
2 byte load % (blue)
2 byte airflow% (yellow)

The one log I posted has two TPS triggered sessions recorded during the video in post 1 above where I removed methanol pump power at WOT and had zero knock


Look at the sessions of the log more closely:
Session on top left - WOT with methanol pump working
Session on top right - WOT without methanol pump working, with same tune, boost, and on same clip of video
Bottom log - the two sessions overlayed for comparison

Green LED (in vid) is tied in parallel to the controller's pump output
Red LED is tied into the 3 way, 2 position WGA solenoid drive signal
The boost gauge represents plenum psi on diverter valve port

The key to the vid and log is: AFR 14.2 at WOT with 0 counts of knock without pump when everything set to run 12.3 AFR at 28 psi - 24 redline

Should I place all channels on the same vertical axis like the zeitronic logger to clear it up (even though all but one would be flat lines)?