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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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Im Ready To Buys NoS!

Okay im ready to buy me a NOS KIT. yes i know, i shouldnt blah blah its just something ive always wanted to have. im doin it reverse after i install it ima upgrade engine parts an build to run higher shots.

I hear 50 shot on stock evo ix should be fine with no problems. but i dont plan on using it alot. hardly ever probobly just a little extra to have incase im losin a race if i ever do race. ;D.

Anyways.

Question is..

Will Any NOS kit universal 4cyl work with my evo? And if so wich one would you prefer? NOS SNIPER KIT 4 cyl or.... NOS KIT 4cyl. The sniper kit looks cheaper but NOS kit looks better actually. Whats your opinion?

And..

DO you think running 50 shot would be fine?

Thanx guys!
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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I will be looking for your future post
" IM READY TO BUY A NEW MOTOR"
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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what a dic^
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Baby Bottle is no good.
Go Meth !
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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what mods do you have?
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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Baby Bottle is no good.
Go Meth !
Funny that the only people whine and cry about the bottle are those with out it.

All in fun.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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I heard somewhere that if you are tuned for 93 oct that you should run 100 oct when you are spraying a 50 shot. Anyone care to back that up?
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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I will step in. A car that is tuned on the edge of knock will def benefit from higher octane. I do have a theory that says the intercooling effect from the nitrous would lead you able to add timing, that is if there was not extra cylinder pressure from the nitrous itself. So with that said I am going to run mine with a fifty shot on the 93 tune. With out extra octane or pulling timing. I will log my runs to be sure that I am not getting knock.

There is a guy on here named DRAG he has been playing with the nitrous all last summer. He has a pretty good handle on it.

Owens
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Owens Racing
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I do have a theory that says the intercooling effect from the nitrous would lead you able to add timing, Owens

NO NO and NO! It's information like this that get engines blown up and a bad rap for nitrous oxide. With that said, if your ECU has not been flashed than you can run a 50 shot no problem without tuning. Stay away from the baby bottles and get a good 10lb bottle once you start using it you will be using more often than you think. Dynotune.com has some good deals on parts and kits. Sounds like you just need a simple universal EFI kit.

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoTech
NO NO and NO! It's information like this that get engines blown up and a bad rap for nitrous oxide. With that said, if your ECU has not been flashed than you can run a 50 shot no problem with tuning. Stay away from the baby bottles and get a good 10lb bottle once you start using it you will be using more often than you think. Dynotune.com has some good deals on parts and kits. Sounds like you just need a simple universal EFI kit.
If your going quote me be sure not take my post out of context.

Here is what was posted by me. Read it completely.

And NO NO NO your the type of people that start this **** by miss reading or not being able to comprehend.

You tick me off. I post the truth and do so with experience. When someone comes and takes shots at your credibility, it tends to make people upset.

Originally Posted by Owens Racing
I will step in. A car that is tuned on the edge of knock will def benefit from higher octane. I do have a theory that says the intercooling effect from the nitrous would lead you able to add timing, that is if there was not extra cylinder pressure from the nitrous itself. So with that said I am going to run mine with a fifty shot on the 93 tune. With out extra octane or pulling timing. I will log my runs to be sure that I am not getting knock.

There is a guy on here named DRAG he has been playing with the nitrous all last summer. He has a pretty good handle on it.

Owens
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Owens Racing
If your going quote me be sure not take my post out of context.

Here is what was posted by me. Read it completely.

And NO NO NO your the type of people that start this **** by miss reading or not being able to comprehend.

You tick me off. I post the truth and do so with experience. When someone comes and takes shots at your credibility, it tends to make people upset.

I am not going to waste text qouting what I am not responding to? Your experience, and your "theory" are all completely wrong and if people follow it they will blow up their engines. So I really don't care if you are upset, ticked off, or that you think I took a shot at your credibility. I have been racing for 30 years and actively building cars for 17 years. Anyone who knows the first thing about nitrous knows that it does not retard knock it induces it. This is why for anything above a 50 shot you should back out 2 degrees of timing for every 50 HP increment up from there. Your qoute completelty contradicts itself. First you say that you should be able to add timing becasue of the cooling effect and then you say unless the cylinder pressures is raised. Well N2o will always raise cylinder pressure. With a 50 HP it is not enough to worry about. So if that is what you are trying to say, fine that is true. But your theory about the cooling benefit is flat wrong becasue is negated by the cylinder pressure increase.

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoTech
I am not going to waste text qouting what I am not responding to? Your experience, and your "theory" are all completely wrong and if people follow it they will blow up their engines. So I really don't care if you are upset, ticked off or that you think I took a shot at your credibility. I have been racing for 25 years and actively building cars for 17 years. Anyone who knows the first thing about nitrous knows that it does not retard knock it induces it. This is why for anything above a 50 shot you should back out 2 degrees of timing for every 50 HP increment up from there.
+99999999! Right on the nose!
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:21 AM
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See my other post regarding the 15 page article on Nitrous. It is very informative for anyone who really wants to learn something from experts in the field insted of all the "forum experts" around here.

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:05 AM
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how does nitrous induce knock? Answer this please?


FWIW What I posted is correct. PERIOD.

I have been around racing for 32 years and Built blown V8's to nitrous huffing V8's. Been doing so for 14 years on my own. My last car I sold, in August was a nitrous car. It ran 11.01 at 121. Car was a stock bottom end LT-1. Mods bolt ons and cam only. I bet money I been through 1000 pounds of nitrous on my years of running it. Not one blown motor. Did slide one head gasket. I take the blame. Spraying to redline in fifth was not smart. That was about 13 years ago. Since then not one motor has blown. Not one head gasket. I m sure I know WTF I am talking about.

I know nitrous, I know engines. You are wrong with miss quote me but you lack the ***** to admit your mistake. So you continue to twist my posts so it seems you are right.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:09 AM
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BTW Your "safe" rule of thumb on pulling timing is cool. The real racers tune for it. We do not use some B.S. safe rule. As well I am sure it is a 2 degrees every 100 shot when tuning for nitrous.

So you say 2 degrees taken out every 50 shot. But yet you say you can run a 50 shot with no tuning. So how is this? Oh wait maybe cause the cooling effect on the boosted car gives you a cushion on detonation. HMMM I was right.
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