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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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disconnecting meth and lowering boost for the winter safe?

My situation is I have a Snow Performance meth kit installed and working but do not have a failsafe yet, I was wondering if there would be any harm in disconnecting the power to the pump and control box for the winter months and turn the boost back down to 21psi? The only concerns I have are if I am tuned for 28psi and meth under WOT and now I will have no meth and 21psi will I harm the engine? I don’t plan on ripping the car around 24/7 like this but im sure there will be a couple occasions over the winter I will do some WOT driving. Ive been waiting for Snow to release the new failsafe but there have been delays. Thanks!
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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ur best bet is just not to get on it in the winter, save the fun and abuse for the summer nights where its worth it
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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yea but what about situations where i will have to use WOT like chasing the hot chick in the Ferrari or something? I dont want to be nervous every time i hit boost thats all
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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The cheapest way would be to pull the fuse on the kit and and get an eflash for the winter...
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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The cheapest way would be to pull the fuse on the kit and and get an eflash for the winter...
i do have a fuse on the main power source coming from the battery, when i pull that fuse the power will be cut to the control box and the pump.

i know nothing about tuning so that is out, and i am not taking it to a shop to get a reflash for 200+ dollars for a couple weeks....thats just stupid. Then i will have to get a retune again in the spring....i could buy a whole new meth kit for that price. If its really gonna be that complicated i will just keep the meth kit hooked up and drive the car like my 90 year old grandma until the spring.

what is wrong with turning the boost down and not running meth? please list some effects it will have on the car...
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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turn ur mbc down to wastegate so its touching the areas that arent tuned for meth and you should be set....
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Why even bother? Just keep her full or meth and don't make a habit of WOT pulls after Ferrari chicas during the snowy times.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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The biggest issue you could run into is detonation. And that's a really big issue. Depending on how your car is tuned, you could experience problems. As a for instance, if you're meth starts to spray at 8#'s or so, and you are actually using meth (not water), the meth is an additional fuel source that supplements the fuel from the injectors. If your tuner touched this area of your fuel map to keep a consistant a/f ratio while on meth, when you take the meth away, you will be leaner than desired, between 8#'s and 21#'s or where ever you turn it down to. Some tuners do tune these transient areas, while others just tune the load cells that are higher up and only accessed from the increased boost (higher than say 21#'s or so) normally associated with meth.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dubbleugly01
The biggest issue you could run into is detonation. And that's a really big issue. Depending on how your car is tuned, you could experience problems. As a for instance, if you're meth starts to spray at 8#'s or so, and you are actually using meth (not water), the meth is an additional fuel source that supplements the fuel from the injectors. If your tuner touched this area of your fuel map to keep a consistant a/f ratio while on meth, when you take the meth away, you will be leaner than desired, between 8#'s and 21#'s or where ever you turn it down to. Some tuners do tune these transient areas, while others just tune the load cells that are higher up and only accessed from the increased boost (higher than say 21#'s or so) normally associated with meth.
i was tuned at TT and the meth starts spraying at 10psi and full by 16 i believe which happens in a split second with the stock turbos quick spooling. I guess i will give them a call and see from what psi they usually tune from on a car with meth.

BTW i an running 100% meth purchased at TT, just take a few gallons from their 55 gal drums they use when i run out.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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i was tuned at TT and the meth starts spraying at 10psi and full by 16 i believe which happens in a split second with the stock turbos quick spooling. I guess i will give them a call and see from what psi they usually tune from on a car with meth.

BTW i an running 100% meth purchased at TT, just take a few gallons from their 55 gal drums they use when i run out.
yes, call TT, that sounds like the best way to approach it. If they give the green light to disconnect the meth, you should be allright.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 03:39 AM
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I still think you should get it de-tuned just to be safe. if not then leave everything alone.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 03:52 AM
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You can save your current tune, so you don't have to keep getting it retuned. Just get the tatrix cabe and put your current tune back in when you need it.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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dude, just put some more meth in your tank and take off

Originally Posted by 05evoGSR
yea but what about situations where i will have to use WOT like chasing the hot chick in the Ferrari or something? I dont want to be nervous every time i hit boost thats all
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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dude, just put some more meth in your tank and take off
this comment makes me want to throw a dead squirrel at you
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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this comment makes me want to throw a dead squirrel at you
so what's up with that avatar? That schnit gives me nightmares. Throw in dead squirrels and all I can think about is the Blair Witch Project.
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