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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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meth AFR's - whats good?

Hi Guys,

ok I am finally getting close with my tune:



What I want to know is what is a good AFR to shoot for when running 50/50 meth/water?

11.5 on gas?

leaner?

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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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You will be ok shooting for 12.0 afr. Some like to push it closer to 12.5 but in that range with WI injection you should be good. I run about 12.5-12.0 during spool up and 12.0 toward redline. I have small leak so I have been having a hard time pinning my afrs down.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 06:53 AM
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is there much power gain in going for 12:1 over 11.5:1?
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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What pump gas are you running. On 91 Oct and 50/50 i try to hit around 11.5.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tephra
is there much power gain in going for 12:1 over 11.5:1?
you will see about 10-15hp. ..What % of meth/water to gasoline are you running?

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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBoz
What pump gas are you running. On 91 Oct and 50/50 i try to hit around 11.5.
98RON, so just under 93oct
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteyTurbo@KHC
you will see about 10-15hp. ..What % of meth/water to gasoline are you running?
probably about 20%
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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If you are road racing it would be better to stay on the rich side so 11.5 to 12.0. I like to go drag racing so I keep mine a little leaner. I also see a few local evo X pushing 30psi on the stock turbo with WI.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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I'd second that, 11.5 to 12.0, 11.8 to shoot for a number. Make sure you are getting full load on the motor otherwise it will run leaner when pushed.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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On our California 91 octane and a 50/50 mix, I'm at 12.0.
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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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12.0 should be a nice number for you. If you were running a more aggressive mix i would say go leaner. See if your car prefers timing vs removed fuel. Obviously you want to get away with more timing for power and lower egt's.

When does your meth hit hard? 3000rpm? 4000?...

Just another thing. See how the car feels at 11.6-.7:1 a/f vs 12.0-.1:1 af. Depending on your approach one may feel better than the other.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 05:53 AM
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i'm doing around 12.5's just with water on stock turbo & ic on aem kit starts spraying @7psi and max flow & 27psi of boost. i think my car likes lean afr's or should i bring the afr back up to 12's ?
as for timings, mine is quite similiar to tephra's except boost curve cos still waiting for 3port.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 06:40 AM
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be careful
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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Just out of curiosity what size jets are people running with methanol? Im currently running an m10 snow performance jet.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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2x 0.6mm jets
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