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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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Two map question

I'd like to run 2 maps, one on 93+meth (water/meth mix) and a Q16 map. My question is about the race gas tune, wouldnt I have to do Q16+meth also? I have the SMC kit with an upgraded Shurflo pump I installed recently and I dont see any way to disable the meth kit when running the racegas tune...unless I just turn the progressive controller to zero when on the Q16 map so the meth doesnt spray, but then the issue arises with the check valve...wont air penetrate the nozzle? The check valve in the SMC kit is good to 15 psi and on Q16 I the car would see in the ballpark of 40+psi.

So my questions are, are there any issues with doing Q16+meth or would there be some sort of clash between running oxygenated leaded race gas with meth/water injection. Any suggestions?
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Old Jun 5, 2010 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Svendiesel
I'd like to run 2 maps, one on 93+meth (water/meth mix) and a Q16 map. My question is about the race gas tune, wouldnt I have to do Q16+meth also? I have the SMC kit with an upgraded Shurflo pump I installed recently and I dont see any way to disable the meth kit when running the racegas tune...unless I just turn the progressive controller to zero when on the Q16 map so the meth doesnt spray, but then the issue arises with the check valve...wont air penetrate the nozzle? The check valve in the SMC kit is good to 15 psi and on Q16 I the car would see in the ballpark of 40+psi.

So my questions are, are there any issues with doing Q16+meth or would there be some sort of clash between running oxygenated leaded race gas with meth/water injection. Any suggestions?
I assume you will be using v7 dual map switching with the tps?

Your meth kit should have its own fuse. What you do when you swap to your Q16 map is just pull the fuse and drive I also don't see a problem running meth with Q16. The meth will help cool the air charge! I ran meth and E85 for awhile and had no problems. I actually was able to run more timing at spool than with just straight E85, increasing spoolup a bit.

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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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Ahh nice yes with v7, I think it does have a fuse yes.

My other issue is though is the check valve if I disabled the meth kit for use with Q16. I know that when I would do a boost leak test, if I hit 15psi in the system air gets into the alcohol line and you can hear the tank bubbling lol. Now I just remove the hose from the nozzle when I test.

So my point is that obviously air got into the alk lines because the throttle body was shut and there was no where else for the air to go. Will this still happen when the car is running and the motor is taking in air? I feel like it might not happen because the air will be pulled into the motor because the throttle body will no obviously be open as opposed to just fill up in the pipes and then make its way into the alcohol line.
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Ahh nice yes with v7, I think it does have a fuse yes.

My other issue is though is the check valve if I disabled the meth kit for use with Q16. I know that when I would do a boost leak test, if I hit 15psi in the system air gets into the alcohol line and you can hear the tank bubbling lol. Now I just remove the hose from the nozzle when I test.

So my point is that obviously air got into the alk lines because the throttle body was shut and there was no where else for the air to go. Will this still happen when the car is running and the motor is taking in air? I feel like it might not happen because the air will be pulled into the motor because the throttle body will no obviously be open as opposed to just fill up in the pipes and then make its way into the alcohol line.
Check valves are not suppose to do that I don't think. You might want to invest in a new one!

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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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Wow youre right dude I dunno why the hell that never clicked in my head that wasnt supposed to happen. Im ordering a new check valve So now Ill be able to do a Q16 map and not worry about anything getting in if I dont do the meth injection while running Q16
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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Correcto! Ya, I was like that is not suppose to happen, that is the whole point of a check valve.

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Old May 20, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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I'd tune it the way you're going to run it. IE with methanol running with the Q16.
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