I guess this EVO driver doesn't know what he's talking about with Subaru. He is talking smack without knowing anything about the immobilizer system. You CAN'T get an immobilizer code from the ECU, and anybody who says you can better lay off the exhaust fumes!!

Mind you...with the immobilizer key, you have to program all of the keys at the same time...and obviously that couldn't happen without quite a bit more information/proof of ownership. Show me where the ECUTek software allows you to READ and access ALL of the lines of code within the ECU. You can't. I work for Subaru, and that is how I know. There are multiple levels of access built into the ECU, and the final layer is where Subaru goes with their Select Monitor.

1. In order to get an immobilizer key cut (by using VIN number), you have to have the registration, AND your driver's license, and they MUST MATCH EXACTLY.

2. Getting the key programmed requires that you have ALL keys to the vehicle in your possession.

What IS dangerous IS posting the VIN number of the vehicle on a public board. If you want to help him, you just need to post the last four digits. That gives about a 1/10,000 chance (which STi's aren't imported in that high of numbers) that there are two with the same last four digits. I know from the VIN decoding that I have access to (at the dealership) that there aren't two STi's with the same last four digits...



Honestly, before you try to libel a company, you need to learn the facts.

I feel bad for this guy for having his car jacked from him. That really SUCKS!! I however think that he needs to look for the culprits somewhere else.

 

You're wrong Roo. I got a replacement key a month ago from the Mitsubishi dealer. I didn't have to show my registration or my driver's license. I just gave them an original which they used to cut a new key. When they were done, they programmed the key.

Are you saying it's not possible to get the immobilizer code from the ECU? No possibility whatsoever?

Finally, what's the deal with posting the VIN of a stolen vehicle? How is that going to hurt him? The good thing for Marvin is that I'm sure he was insured. So after the 30 day wait period, his insurance company will be getting him a new STi... unless of course, he wants something a little better, in which case he'll choose an Evo MR.

 

sorry bro, keep my eyes peeled.

 

Yeah what's wrong with posting the VIN at this point...

Good luck I hope the theives get run through with a blunt sword

 

You got a replacement key, which was traced with your original key. In order to program your key (and not de-program your spare key) you had to take all of the keys in to be programmed together.

I AM saying that it is impossible with the ECUTek software to hack the computer and retrieve the immobilizer code. I don't want to get into the technical side of things (although I am knowledgeable about it), but suffice it to say that no one is getting that code from the ECU using that software.

Finally, posting the VIN on a vehicle would allow some unscrupulous person access to possibly getting a key. I'm sure there are dealerships which may not follow the security procedures, and MIGHT issue a key mistakenly to someone just using the VIN and cutting a key.

I'm not here to debate the STi/Evo rivalry, because I don't have an opinion one way or the other on those. I find both cars to be fast, fun, and handle really well. I've driven the EVO RS, and even during the break in period (friend let me drive it day after he picked it up), that car handled evenly and predictably, even under the 4K limit. I'm impressed by both the Evolution series, and the STi vehicles.

 

Well I think if the vehicle is already boosted, he wont have to worry about someone making a set of fake keys from the VIN number...

 

...is that Kingpin Performance in NO WAY has access to an immobilizer code.

I feel bad that this car was stolen. I just think that someone should realize that slamming a company for something they didn't do isn't always the best course of action.

I hope they find this scooby safe and sound, and return it to its owner.

 

I think it would feel tainted if it's recovered. I'm hoping they don't recover it or they recover it completely stripped out down in Mexico or something. This way his insurance company will buy him a new one! Maybe he can hold out for the new 06? It should be out in a couple more months. Although I'm not sure I could live with that new look to the front grill. :-)

 

I don't thinks it a good idea to post this online...specially if he is your bro...just lookin' out bro...

timing has nothing to do with it...just posting VINS and license plates online is not safe, whether the car is stolen or not...

That really sucks, and I feel the same way, I wouldn't want it back after it was stolen from me either...sorry about your friend's loss...

 

well, it's gone, and dealerships do post vin numbers to do car history checks online, so I don't think it's horribly bad...

besides, if the car is gone, the carjackers can just get the vin written on the car.

 

Think you might want to do some reseach before you start blindly implementing people and or companies. If this guy is your buddy you would know that Marv is a good friend and a loyal customer of ours. We have done the tuning both on this and his previous Subaru. We have also comped him parts and tuning for being such a good customer and friend. We have several people on the look out for Marv's Car and have been very proactive in helping him out.

You might also consider that making flase statements about a person or comapny in a public forum is against the law. Thanks.

M

 

way to go Mike^^ ya naji I cant believe you would spout out like this. Also is the wifes car mitsu elec blue?

 

Hey guys i just wanted to jump in here as i have been a member here for a while.. I recently moved out from Ny to AZ and have been working at kingpin.. I have known Mike and the staff here for over 4 years while i have been in the subaru scene, and i can't say enough about these guys(i would not be working here if they were not a good bunch of guys) I urge you guys to come down to the new shop and hang out for a bit, and you can get a feel of the type of people we are.. We are all car enthusiests, love talking about and looking at cars no matter the make or model..

I own an 03 BBY Evo 8 and you will be seing a lot of it in the coming months as it is going to be the kingpin shop evo8.. We will be manufacturing some awesome parts for the evo, and breaking new ground. My goal is to make Kingpin a household name in the evo comunity, and when you think of us, i want you to think of well built, fast cars.

We will be having a grand opening party at the shop and all evo owners are invited, to come check it out, eat some food, and have some fun. We willhave tons of sick cars to check out also..

I cant speak for anyhting that happened here before i got here, but i can say that my job is to make everyone happy, and all i can do is my best to accomplish that. Atleast give me the chance to prove it to you.

So if any of you want to stop down and say hello, feel more then welcome to, i am here every day from 9-6.. The address is:
3902 E University




Dave S
Kingpin Performance
cronic@kingpinperformance.com

 

Hey Dave, when is the big shin dig?

 

Once we get the lifts moved over, and the rest of the shop in, i will announce the date.. It will be an awesome time, so come on out!

The sales offices are in the new shop already, and we are going full steam ahead!

Dave