Important Announcement Re: Brain Flash P2
I have the P1 93 octane flash and peak hp is 241. Here is a chart showing my 2 runs (red/blue) Now like the rest of us we would like to see a P2 graph thrown in the mix. Also how hard is it to replace the T hose assembly?
Last edited by caymandiver75; Oct 13, 2003 at 10:02 AM.
This is exactly the type of response I was hoping for when David returned. Good call David.
I just talked with David and they are very busy taking orders
To David and crew at WORKS...
Way to go! Its nice to see a company that sees what customers want and go out of their way to satisfy their current and future customers. I was skeptical about the $750 for the p2 at first, but now at $600 i'll get it no doubt for sure, with this i might also follow the parts that Works has to offer.
See you guys at ATP at nov., can't wait
Way to go! Its nice to see a company that sees what customers want and go out of their way to satisfy their current and future customers. I was skeptical about the $750 for the p2 at first, but now at $600 i'll get it no doubt for sure, with this i might also follow the parts that Works has to offer.
See you guys at ATP at nov., can't wait
I talked to David today and they will have instructions on how to replace the T hose assembly sometime today or tomorrow. I'll be getting the P2 installed this week and dyno test it and show you the results in comparison to the P1 dyno chart that I posted above.
"Also how hard is it to replace the T hose assembly? "
Caymandiver ,
It is a bit of a pain to get the stock T hose off the car due to the fact that there is very little space to get your hands in there. The back of the fan case is razor sharp (literally) in places and will cut you before you know it. Looks like it would help a lot to remove the plastic undertray the and have it on ramps to get the lower section of the hose off. I was working from the top because the instructions I got said not to run the car without the new hose in so I couldn't drive it up on ramps. I ended up tearing one of the lower sections of the stock hose coming off the T while trying to remove it, then had to cut the remainder off. The new one goes on easy once the stock one is removed. Then you have to get your hands in there to get the clips on. If you do it from the top it is possible to do it only removing the airbox but I woudn't recommend it.
This is not like the P1 where you just plug it in. It is a very simple proceedure of removing a hose and replacing it. It's made difficult because of the space available to get it done.
For the performance and price now available its well worth the effort.
Caymandiver ,
It is a bit of a pain to get the stock T hose off the car due to the fact that there is very little space to get your hands in there. The back of the fan case is razor sharp (literally) in places and will cut you before you know it. Looks like it would help a lot to remove the plastic undertray the and have it on ramps to get the lower section of the hose off. I was working from the top because the instructions I got said not to run the car without the new hose in so I couldn't drive it up on ramps. I ended up tearing one of the lower sections of the stock hose coming off the T while trying to remove it, then had to cut the remainder off. The new one goes on easy once the stock one is removed. Then you have to get your hands in there to get the clips on. If you do it from the top it is possible to do it only removing the airbox but I woudn't recommend it.
This is not like the P1 where you just plug it in. It is a very simple proceedure of removing a hose and replacing it. It's made difficult because of the space available to get it done.
For the performance and price now available its well worth the effort.
Ok tonight I'll put the car up on ramps so that I can work from the underside of the car. How did you rip the hose? Are they that brittle or did you just get frustrated with it and pull until it ripped? I bet it's easier to do if warm, but unfortunatly the car is going to be cold... maybe a hair dryer will help out a bit.
Has anyone dynoed their car yet with the P2? I hope i'm not the first to do this, but looks like I will be.
Also just for fun considering a 19% drive train loss the 241 hp I got on the dyno translates to 300 flywheel hp. That explains a race I had with an STI about 2 months ago. There were two people in my car and 1 guy in the STI. We were almost dead even from 15mph-80mph.
Has anyone dynoed their car yet with the P2? I hope i'm not the first to do this, but looks like I will be.
Also just for fun considering a 19% drive train loss the 241 hp I got on the dyno translates to 300 flywheel hp. That explains a race I had with an STI about 2 months ago. There were two people in my car and 1 guy in the STI. We were almost dead even from 15mph-80mph.
Last edited by caymandiver75; Oct 13, 2003 at 12:49 PM.
David and Works, I am pleased to see a pricing schedule that I know I, as well as everyone else, can be comfortable with. It has been a while since we have heard of a product release by Works but, it seems like they have always been working diligently. I feel they have again released a product that has gone through hours, days, weeks, and months of R&D to provide their customers with the best product on the market once again. What I think most people on the board do not realize is how much money actually goes into research and Developing a product like the P2. The dyno time dollars alone that is spent on the car perfecting the power band and air/fuel cures is astronomical. How many people have actually priced out the cost of tuning a stand alone ecu like the Apex’i Power FC? The price of the P2 when initially released shocked me. But, still from a tuning standpoint I was still saving so much money and more. 1-I knew that the professionals at Works tuned the maps, not “someone” who says they know what they are doing that does not have the time and experience that Works has. 2-Works did all the leg work to get it perfected so, I did not have to spend hours/days and dollars at a dyno facility getting them perfected. 3-My car did not have to take the “toll” that most cars experience driven to the ragged edge on the dyno, Works provided their own EVO for that *whew* thank god. I am sure that with the new pricing that Works has released they still will not make profits on this product for quite a while. I know that a product like this and continued staged products like we have seen so far I will continue to be a loyal Works customer. Where else are we going see a products that offer the simplicity of plug and play with the shown power increases and also have the huge amounts of R&D behind them to offer us the reliability which Works can stand behind to give us a warranty.
I am amazed. There are few companies in the import world who truly listen to their customers... Someone at Works made a bad market decision. The customer base not only complained, but voiced valid reasons for their complaints. Someone at Works reviewed what was stated (and I'm sure sales didn't jump through the roof) and made an adjustment. Seems sales have picked up, and both the customer and the vendor win... that's good business on their part. Kudos! I'd made up my mind to give Al at dynoflash a try upon a Texas Dyno day... the adjusted price makes the P2 too good a deal to pass up, and leaves one with the piece of mind of Works warrantee and quality.
Originally posted by trev0006
what is the bast way to pack the ecu when shipping, will bubble wrap in a box work?
what is the bast way to pack the ecu when shipping, will bubble wrap in a box work?


