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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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stock header reconditioning

i was wondering if anyone knows how hot the stock headers get?

reason why is because i took my stock headers off, had a friend of mine sand blast them for me, then i coated them with a ceramic spay that was supposed to be capable of withstanding 1200 degrees. they looked awesome, and i even had them bake under a heat lamp over night and sit for a few hours befor i put them back on. but not even after 5 minutes of the engine running the ceramic caoting started to flake in some spots. this was my second attempt already, is it possible that our headers our hotter than 1200 degrees?

if so im screwed, cause i cant find a higher degree ceramic coat, and i grinded the bolts of that hold the heat shield on
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ralliart 04
i was wondering if anyone knows how hot the stock headers get?

reason why is because i took my stock headers off, had a friend of mine sand blast them for me, then i coated them with a ceramic spay that was supposed to be capable of withstanding 1200 degrees. they looked awesome, and i even had them bake under a heat lamp over night and sit for a few hours befor i put them back on. but not even after 5 minutes of the engine running the ceramic caoting started to flake in some spots. this was my second attempt already, is it possible that our headers our hotter than 1200 degrees?

if so im screwed, cause i cant find a higher degree ceramic coat, and i grinded the bolts of that hold the heat shield on
buy rrms header
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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I wouldn't trust any of that spray on header paint. You could get yours jet-hotted or ceramic coated.
But why do that when you can go get RRM's? Better header and it comes ceramic coated. Call them...they might have a couple left.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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according to the roadrace site they only have 2 left, so im **** out of luck cause i dont have the funds right now. plus im getting rrm's down pipe in mint condition for only 160 dollars from my friend that up gradade to turbo, so i would realy like to just keep my stock headers anyway.

has anyone ever seen or know were i could get a higher tempeture header paint with ceramic ?

here they are in thier current condition.
the pictures arnt that clear cause of sun glare but the second pic shows a little of what im talkin about.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...id=95088&stc=1
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...id=95089&stc=1
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...id=95090&stc=1

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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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I don't think you need higher temperature paint. The hottest I've ever seen an exhaust header or manifold get was just over 700 degrees F. A normal stock exhaust manifold will run a temperature of about 580 F, give or take a little depending on the car.

You might not have got the headers clean enough to paint them after you sand blasted them. Some of that paint can be very picky when it comes to sticking to a surface. I say sand blast them again, then give them a quick sanding to rouh them up a little more, and then wipe them down with some paint thinner really good. Make sure you wear gloves when you handle the header during and after the paint thinner step because the oils from your hands will try to prevent the paint from sticking. Just my .02 though. Good luck, it will look pretty decent from what I can tell on the pictures. I would have done this to mine too but I opted to get the RPW header.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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I don't think you need higher temperature paint. The hottest I've ever seen an exhaust header or manifold get was just over 700 degrees F. A normal stock exhaust manifold will run a temperature of about 580 F, give or take a little depending on the car.

You might not have got the headers clean enough to paint them after you sand blasted them. Some of that paint can be very picky when it comes to sticking to a surface. I say sand blast them again, then give them a quick sanding to rouh them up a little more, and then wipe them down with some paint thinner really good. Make sure you wear gloves when you handle the header during and after the paint thinner step because the oils from your hands will try to prevent the paint from sticking. Just my .02 though. Good luck, it will look pretty decent from what I can tell on the pictures. I would have done this to mine too but I opted to get the RPW header.
i bet your right , its probably from the oil on my hands cause it only does it in some spots and (paint thinner) why didnt i think of that? thanks man , ill try that next time around.
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