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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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can someone clear up for me how a Direct Port nitrous system would be installed on our engine. as in how the n20 and fuel get added in each cylinder, does drilling need to be done?
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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why don't u use a wet system to make sure u have enough fuel with it?
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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There are different ways to do it, wet or dry NOS. Normally you can change nozzles depending on how much you want to spary. There are many configurations, single nozzle at the main Throtle body or with individual ports welded on the intake manifold and mixed with the fuel injector ports.


That is just some basic configurations, I am much contrary of using NOS on any car despite whatever people say. I was in San Antonio Raceway in February and I saw a guy almost being killed and burnt alive inside of a Pontiac Tran Am Ram Air, he lost his car completly and almost lost his life as well, I was standing 50 feet away and felt the heat of his car in flames.

Moto17 on this forum also got his engine, hood,and thousands and thousands of dollars lost in damage.. Absolutely not worth at all in my opinion.

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
There are different ways to do it, wet or dry NOS. Normally you can change nozzles depending on how much you want to spary. There are many configurations, single nozzle at the main Throtle body or with individual ports welded on the intake manifold and mixed with the fuel injector ports.


That is just some basic configurations, I am much contrary of using NOS on any car despite whatever people say. I was in San Antonio Raceway in February and I saw a guy almost being killed and burnt alive inside of a Pontiac Tran Am Ram Air, he lost his car completly and almost lost his life as well, I was standing 50 feet away and felt the heat of his car in flames.

Moto17 on this forum also got his engine, hood,and thousands and thousands of dollars lost in damage.. Absolutely not worth at all in my opinion.

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nitrous is safe done correctly. nitrous isn't flammable by itself. yes u should read more about it cuz it u get a nitrus backfire it can blow up the intake lol. I seen that happen cuz dude put the nozzle right in front of the intake. u should also be at WOT over 2500 rpms. I put the wet nozzle setup for a 75 shot on my nissan I had and the nozzle was over 12 inches away from the throttle body. I recommend NXpress . that is what I used. I don't know how much the lancer can handle but they give u a sheet with every make on there and which nozzles to use for which car.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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I'm gonna have to agree with WRXtoEvo, I've seen so many deadly accidents with nitrous being the cause, people get stupid when they have it installed; not to mention if you didn't wreck, the damage done to your block/pistons/rods/seals/gaskets/etc.

but I have also seen the other side of it, where it is used successfully without causing any problems, to power a honda accord with prelude swap that this guy did at the garage i work at.

the up side : horses

the downside: you can lose everything, including your life.

if you do it, just don't get stupid, there have been to many deaths involving guy's getting stupid and hitting that red button just to slam into a wall, or slam into a tree, or a lightpole.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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exactly its as safe as the user. u abuse it and it will abuse u back.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralli04Art
can someone clear up for me how a Direct Port nitrous system would be installed on our engine. as in how the n20 and fuel get added in each cylinder, does drilling need to be done?

just to answer the question.....


direct port is the most complicated to do but is "safer" since you can provide "equal" nitrous and fuel yes it involves drilling your intake manifold in order to put in the foggers

fuel depending how you route the lines from needs to be divided into 4 obviously (same as the nitrous... you will need to upgrade you fuel pump and make a return system so you can regulate the fuel pressure to the rail and to the nitrous setup...
you will need a window switch (the one i use is msd digital) so you control the starting point and the finish of the spray @ wot


as far a safty goes direct is best but as safe as it is, is somewhat a pita to tune and you need to have present on your mind the math of the foggers so you do not blow the engine..


so my recomendation

go single fogger easy, reliable and less expensive ill even save you the math go with a 100 shot + 3 on fuel

i believe in the n.o.s. systems the fogger numbers add up so if in nos
.047 on nitrous and .053 on fuel use 0.047 and 0.056




my disclaimer:
this is how my car is setup right now at one fogger if you feel like doing this get a pro to do it for you if you do now have the slightest clue as to wtf you are doing, doing this the wrong way might kill your engine

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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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exactly how do you die using nitrous...?
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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if used correctly and responsibly nitrous is no more dangerous than the gas you put in your car....yea your going to have to drill buddy....
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PR_Mivec
exactly how do you die using nitrous...?
Dude, you have some Bristish humor.. I don't know if you are joking,, being sarcastic or just plain ignorant.

Obviouly a bottle of NOS just sitting in the trunk and not touching it it wouldn't do nothing. The NOS can explode if you have a rupture on the lines, in fact it can explode so hard that it blows intake manifolds in the air like a bomb, it can blow your hood in the air and it can destroy a engine in pieces and you can get cut by metal flying parts.

I can direct you to some links on the internet with life threating situations were people got seriously injured. The NOS accident normally happen indirectly.

My friends Scott got his Evo on fire from using NOS at the track, Scott is a guy on this forum(Moto17), I spoke with him less than two hours ago. These are real testimonies, I was present when his car caught on fire and had to be put down at SIR.

NOS is much safer than years ago. I know that some of the fastest cars run on NOS, I am saying the NOS is a direct root of cathastropic decomposicion of huge mechanical components in the car that often causes fire due to total destruction of gas lines, batteries,electrical system and flying metal debri..

Carlos
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralli04Art
can someone clear up for me how a Direct Port nitrous system would be installed on our engine. as in how the n20 and fuel get added in each cylinder, does drilling need to be done?
Go to a damn garage and have it done. It's like this, if you don't know how it should be done, can't be bothered to look at:
www.holley.com
www.nitrousexpress.com
or
www.zex.com (allthough to be "fair" I don't think they do direct port)

and click through oh.... 4 or 5 links to find the info.....
Chances are you might be one of those people who will add to motec induced meltdowns. On the plus side you also stand a good chance or chlorinating yourself out of the gene pool while you do it.

I don't recommend a 100 shot on stock internals anyways unless you're from PR

So go take out a loan, you'll save money in the long run.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Dude, you have some Bristish humor.. I don't know if you are joking,, being sarcastic or just plain ignorant.

Obviouly a bottle of NOS just sitting in the trunk and not touching it it wouldn't do nothing. The NOS can explode if you have a rupture on the lines, in fact it can explode so hard that it blows intake manifolds in the air like a bomb, it can blow your hood in the air and it can destroy a engine in pieces and you can get cut by metal flying parts.

I can direct you to some links on the internet with life threating situations were people got seriously injured. The NOS accident normally happen indirectly.

My friends Scott got his Evo on fire from using NOS at the track, Scott is a guy on this forum(Moto17), I spoke with him less than two hours ago. These are real testimonies, I was present when his car caught on fire and had to be put down at SIR.

NOS is much safer than years ago. I know that some of the fastest cars run on NOS, I am saying the NOS is a direct root of cathastropic decomposicion of huge mechanical components in the car that often causes fire due to total destruction of gas lines, batteries,electrical system and flying metal debri..

Carlos

sarcastic

the only thing that has happened to me was a bottle blowing up.. but hey shiite happens i personaly dont know anyone who has died i do know a lot of people getting high because of a nitrous leak inside the car....
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Ok, lots of great info here, but lets step back a second. We have a guy running a meth injection setup telling people NOS could blow up your engine/life etc. Last I checked, a meth injection setup can be kinda scary for your motor if done improperly as well. Much like anything if you don't know what you are doing with it, you run a good shot of blowing your gear up, or worse.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PR_Mivec
exactly how do you die using nitrous...?
I'm really thinking about hitting nitrous but like a lot of people say, it's fun but also has it's consequences. PR Mivec tu signature esta del carajo
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