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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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question.... if you get the ripp mods supercharger... what headers do you get? or do you need to get new ones... other than stock? eh? what other mods do you need to put on the stage 2?
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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BOO with american cars (just playin)
people are like totaly buggin out over this stuff,
zoo i am sorta curiouse though what hose cracked on your car?

Tc's are cool Sc's are hot too (havent seen one in the lancer) but my friend has a 3g v6 thats pretty nasty has RIPPS supercharger in it its nuts

everyone should get along
drink some beers or get some yohoos or something

you guys really shoudnt trash on anyone , i made a HUGE mistake of doing so once time and now i just feel stupid about it. you never know what might happen in the future you might be ****tin on someone one day and then the next day buyin stuff off em (trust me i know) you feel like a real shmuck
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pinoynoskillz
question.... if you get the ripp mods supercharger... what headers do you get? or do you need to get new ones... other than stock? eh? what other mods do you need to put on the stage 2?

I'm not sure, but I'll tell you, I'm having a real hard time getting any information from ripp mod, I sent them a cpl emails and posted on their message board and no replies at all.

I would like to see a supercharger for the ralliart, but I have a bad feeling it's still a year or more away.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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pocora - I kno Rippmods is going to do the ralliart. they need a test car locally and there are no replies for a test car from anyone. if anyone who wants to be a test car for the SDS please give them a call. as for noone replying on thier msg board...they are gettin ready for the triple crown in ohio and Hyundai reps from korea is going to triple crown to see Ripps Tibby which they are working on day and night with new goodies they got for the tibby.

pinoynoskillz - as for headers....any aftermarket headers are fine! i have the kamikazi with downpipe.

Liquid Lancer - the hose that connect to the top of the valve cover
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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ZOO you said the hose that connects to the top of the vlv cover... that's hose will not cause you to run lean and blow you car... rather under boost it would act like a leak and cause you to run rich. This is why i waved the BS flag on you earlie and now the point it proven.

Don't sweat it though... you probably thought, or were lead to believe, that it caused it. It didn't. Most people that run higher boost just block off that port and put a catch can in. Just connect the catch can to the top and side of the vlv cover. Then you'll never have that issue again.

It is more likely that the hose blew when you blew the motor due to excessive blow by trying to go back thru the valve and your on the gas still forcing boost in. It usually would have just blown out your dipstick but in your case it may have blown the hose. However it was not the reason for your engine failure!
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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POCO RA... i just answered the attack upon me by saying i was going V-8. By the way with EFI the V-8 can get up to 27mpg... just have to stay out of the gas(not going to happen )

Anyway, i think you should get off your i'm standing up to boe crap and i think i'm cool crap since in the end its just CRAP

Check out my post above about the blown vacuum hose... see where the BS is at. I never lie and i always keep things honest on here... that's what this forum is all about.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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if you have any input on a ralliart supercharger feel free to post here, otherwise go post in the off topic section ace.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Again i only answer when the question or attack is directed at me... if you'd drop it then i would as well...

For the record my post was concerning the SC on zoo's car which his motor blew, as you know, and he blamed something that could not have caused his issue. Now go to OT if you'd like to continue this ACE!!
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Boeturbolancer
Second off my car had about 16k invested into it and at a top of 268whp/274wtq i saw that getting 400+ reliably was just going to cost me way to much.
Did you calculated how much money and effort to attain 400 whp before starting your project? You should have known to knock down your HP figure.

Logically, how many H&A guys try SOHC to crank up those #'s? It's an extreme rarity. For me, I don't know any. The vast of them go the route of DOHC. Unfortuantely, no one knows how to contact salvage yard in Taiwan for their Virage DOHC motor.



http://www.autosalon.org/results.asp?rid=33
Current Dyno #'s???

http://www.fullboost.com.au/records.php?class=11
#13 record

http://locost7.info/converter.php
conversion chart

http://www.mirageforums.net/phpBB2/v...ight=turboworx
Some past specs from fellow Aussie

The above is a Mirage/Lancer MR hitting high 11's floating about 400 WHP. It's pretty much a given on slicks and its weight under 2500 lbs w/ driver. It's still a 4g93, a 1.8 liter motor.


Then, you have previous gen mirages as DSM owners (there are more of them in the US than next gen mirages even attempting such a HP goal) swapping their motors that produced about 400 HP + AWD to an amazing mid 11's.

Of course, there are a bunch of hearsay/urban legends from PR, but I know their potential until they produce some sort of proof of hitting low ETA, whopping HP #'s, and insane boost w/ NOS. I'm just glad lancer guys in PR are glad to show their #'s in public.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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Also, w/ the lancer weight and driver, your HP goal would have been targetting 1g DSM GST. Then again, I have never seen my fellow GST guys go fast, because a vast majority of them are a bunch of yahoos in my area lighting up their tires like GST=AWD and get left at the line by previous gen SI's w/ TC.

Just like my friend who bought a T3/T4 setup (didn't ask for spec) for his 97 4g93. I've told him, "you better hit close to 300 WHP or feel disappointed because the motor can't suck/force in that much air w/o NOS." Then he told me of its price, very cheap for new, and I had to shut up. "Can't pass up a deal like that."

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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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With a fully built motor it is possible... the puerto rico guy(forget his name) last i knew laid down about 360whp and 330wtq??(somewhere about that figure)

He had to switch to a totally different independant coil system, was using a stand alone, and boosting 20+psi on 8.5:1 pistons. Still on SOHC with no NOS. It's all about the tune and the $$ your willing to invest. His best time was a 12.6 i believe on his yoko's i believe. Do a search his post should be out there. When i set out for this adventure i figured 10-15k should get me there but i still have about 5-6k to go if i want that goal. Instead i'd rather just stop and re-invest elsewhere. The lancer has a lot of potential whether you SC or TC it. It's all about the cash your willing to throw at it.

Personally i pulled my best and i think it is a great set of numbers and track times for a lancer that started at a bit over 100whp/tq. Now lets see what the SC has in store for the lancer. It should be a cheaper way of going about it since you can build your motor for about 2G's get the premier kit for 4g's, cams+pulleys+decompress gasket+ cam gear= 1G, then up the boost via pulley upgrade and it's on. RIPPs box is supposedly ready for boosts up to 25psi so the lancer should be putting down some serious numbers once a built guy with some cash gets a hold of an SC kit. Between tuning and parts(providing they do a lot of their own labor) they are only spending about 10-12G's to get where i was or maybe even past. Time will tell.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:00 AM
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pocora - I kno Rippmods is going to do the ralliart. they need a test car locally and there are no replies for a test car from anyone. if anyone who wants to be a test car for the SDS please give them a call. as for noone replying on thier msg board...they are gettin ready for the triple crown in ohio and Hyundai reps from korea is going to triple crown to see Ripps Tibby which they are working on day and night with new goodies they got for the tibby.

pinoynoskillz - as for headers....any aftermarket headers are fine! i have the kamikazi with downpipe.

Liquid Lancer - the hose that connect to the top of the valve cover
I live 30 minutes away from RIPP and offered up my car numerous times, they said they are not accepting test vehicles anymore.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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well i looking at either a sc or a turbo

I have been lead to understand that you can get up to 400 whp with a turbo and the proper config in the ralliart engine. I dont see why you could not get those type of numbers with the proper config on a supercharger.
Boe with a V8 and and heavy vehicle like the one you were talking about your had better lighten it to almost nascar specs to catch a turbo or sc lancer. espicially if they have lightened their own car. I mean can any of us expect to catch a volkswagen bug with 2135 dual carb i doubt it.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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The Driver I have spoke with them also and they had informed me that they are interested in prototyping it just takes time. as a matter of fact they had told me they have plans to bring in ralliarts in oct-nov.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Yeah i know about the mustangs drawbacks but when i'm done with the mods i'm going to do i'm putting an SC on her... then i'll tune it to about 500rwhp on 91 octane. Should be plenty safe and good for a high 11 to low 12's. The SC kits for it are only 1600-2200 bucks and i have a lot of connections for the dyno tuning.

Trust me the lancer won't keep up once i'm done but i'll miss it always... i have cravings for that sweet BOV sound every damn day since i let it all go.
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