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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
I've never been one to go to insurance or warranty for repair work when something was my own fault. I honestly feel that this is one of those "gotta pay to play" things. Not flaming on anyone, but if you add something like a CAI to your car, that ISN'T a minor mod when you do something like drive through a deep puddle. It certainly didn't do minor damage, did it?

If I was to put something minor on my car, like rims that are a bit wider than stock, and then I have wheel bearings fail on me (because of the increased lateral stress) would it be something I would want to take in for warranty work? Nope. Pay to play.
I feel that way about a lot of things, but not when it comes to insurance. People get raped by insurance companies, paying $2000+ per year just because they have to. when something goes wrong with a car, I want insurance to pay for every penny of it.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 03:33 AM
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It's attitude like yours that make youths justify doing illegal things if it means that they can save their own azz and it's ok to stick it to the "big man" (the multi million dollar company, which by the way, is doing poorly finanicially and you are contributing to it)

Thanks for screwing the rest of us legit owners

-joe
As far as getting screwed you dont know the first thing about it, I took my Solara to Folsom Lake Toyota after my Solara got broke into and I got $5,000 worth of stereo equipment jacked, they also stole my S-AFC and messed up my ECU so that my car would not run. I had the car towed to Folsom Lake, wheil my car was there someone took my car out for a joyride and put 60 miles on my car and blew my engine. When I got the car back it sounded like crap and broke down 10 miles down the road. I took it to a different mechaninc and he told me someone had spun my crank rod and the noise comming from my enigne was the piston hitting the valve. My insurace would not cover it and Toyota is denying the whole thing, so I went out and had to buy a new car (my ralli art) and then I had to pay for a new engine and pay someone to put it in. Now I have to sue Folsom Lake to get my money back and there is no way to know that I will win. What I do know is that someone else blew my engine and I had to pay for it, so Dont tell me about getting screwed personally I could give a **** if you think I am screwing you over because I really dont care, I was just trying to give some advice if you dont like it you can go to hell, I dont care if this gets deleted I just hope you get a chance to read it because you dont know what the hell you are talking about.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sillypuddy
It's attitude like yours that make youths justify doing illegal things if it means that they can save their own azz and it's ok to stick it to the "big man" (the multi million dollar company, which by the way, is doing poorly finanicially and you are contributing to it)

Thanks for screwing the rest of us legit owners

-joe
Your welcome, you have mail.

ON a side note I really feel for you hydrolocking your engine and I hope you can get it resolved, but just to clarify I said thats what I would do and I have done nothing wrong, I live in America and we have freedom of speech so you can disagree with what I have to say but dont make it personal on the boards thats what PM is for. As far as not being a legit owner I paid for my car with my own money so how am I not a legit owner?

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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by otter
I feel that way about a lot of things, but not when it comes to insurance. People get raped by insurance companies, paying $2000+ per year just because they have to. when something goes wrong with a car, I want insurance to pay for every penny of it.

Insurance companies cover your car in STOCK form. If you want them to cover your car's modifications, or cover damage that might be caused due to modifications, then you need to declare the modifications you have done to them.

I know my insurance company will cover mods for a relatively cheap fee as long as you itemize them and make them known. Otherwise, you can have a car stolen, and then it's just your word against theirs..."Yeah, I had..um..an aftermarket turbo on it, and some Volk rims....and, um....a $4,000 stereo...yeah...oh, and there was $2,000 cash in the glove box, too."

Know what I mean?
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by kondo
I paid for my car with my own money so how am I not a legit owner?
I think he meant "legit" as in "honest".
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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where does it stand now? dont try to turn it over any more! check your rods and make sure they are not bent. i hope you disconected the battery asap. you might be able to get out inexpensivly if you dont mind tearing down the whole block. a friend did this to his benz a while back and he got it fixed /w a few sensors and rods and some valves and a couple months of working on it =)
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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sorry about ur RA dude......
a bit off topic here......does the bypass really help preventing the water going into ur motor? well....i don't know what a bypass is......a bit info would help, since i got an injen CAI too......thanks guys
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kondo
Your welcome, you have mail.

ON a side note I really feel for you hydrolocking your engine and I hope you can get it resolved, but just to clarify I said thats what I would do and I have done nothing wrong, I live in America and we have freedom of speech so you can disagree with what I have to say but dont make it personal on the boards thats what PM is for. As far as not being a legit owner I paid for my car with my own money so how am I not a legit owner?

Your freedom of speech is negated on a public internet forum. It is up to the owners/moderators of the board to determine what goes, what stays, if personal attacks are allowed etc. If you don't like being personally attacked on a PUBLIC BOARD then don't come here. It's like walking into a store and then disagreeing with the way things are run. You living in America has nothing to do with anything, this is the world wide web. What's that mean? It means websites are not "American" or "Canadian." Everyone in the world has access to it so country-specific laws do not apply.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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I read this forum to talk about cars, thats all, I should have just let it go and now I am done with the whole thing, Im not trying to start fights Im a 24 year old grown man I dont need someone to tell me whats right or wrong, so please lets just get back to the hydrolocking if anyone else has a opinion PM Me.
Nick
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kondo
As far as getting screwed you dont know the first thing about it, I took my Solara to Folsom Lake Toyota after my Solara got broke into and I got $5,000 worth of stereo equipment jacked, they also stole my S-AFC and messed up my ECU so that my car would not run. I had the car towed to Folsom Lake, wheil my car was there someone took my car out for a joyride and put 60 miles on my car and blew my engine. When I got the car back it sounded like crap and broke down 10 miles down the road. I took it to a different mechaninc and he told me someone had spun my crank rod and the noise comming from my enigne was the piston hitting the valve. My insurace would not cover it and Toyota is denying the whole thing, so I went out and had to buy a new car (my ralli art) and then I had to pay for a new engine and pay someone to put it in. Now I have to sue Folsom Lake to get my money back and there is no way to know that I will win. What I do know is that someone else blew my engine and I had to pay for it, so Dont tell me about getting screwed personally I could give a **** if you think I am screwing you over because I really dont care, I was just trying to give some advice if you dont like it you can go to hell, I dont care if this gets deleted I just hope you get a chance to read it because you dont know what the hell you are talking about.
you might think you are 24 "grown man" but you are still immature and sending me semi-threatening pm is not going to change my opinion on this matter.

i am not the only one here that agrees with the "pay to play" mentality. I never took your "right" to speech away, just pointing out the falacy you are pushing. Warranties are designed to cover manufactuer defects.. not your aftermarket part mishaps, no matter how "minor" in your small world

-joe
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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the forum has an off topic section, right?
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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It's me. Well I was highly pissed when I first wrote this I it was a little wrong. I don't know if anyone has ever been down mountain roads, but they are windy and pitch black. Well the night in question, I was driving along with my uncle and there was this dip in the road so I go down it. There was water washing over from the lake and going into the ditch below it like a waterfall. I went back a few days ago and it was deeper than I had thought. I know I said 4 inches but it was more like 10 or 12. I have no earthly idea why I said 4 except I was upset I guess. Well I hit it and when I saw the water running across the road like a river I paniced and hit the gas. When I came out of the dip on the other side is when it locked up. I towed it home and tryed to get all of the water out. I turned it over and nothing. So I let it sit for a day and tried it again and still nothing. I figured I would stop when a big chunk of the block was lying in the driveway. I towed it 250 miles yesterday to my house and then to the local dealer. My insurance said they would fix everything. I know the guy at the dealer so hopefully he will help me out. Alot of people talk about having a cold air or stock or anything for that matter. I don't think it would have made much difference except if you went real slow. Jamming on the gas like I did probably could have sucked the fish out of the water. ( haha) It is funny when something like this happens how you could get so mad you don't even think straight. I am currently driving a focus which is better than nothing. The Ralli is dead for now, but hopefully it will rise from the ashes stronger than ever.

I asked for a turbo but somehow I don't think it will happen.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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If you had the stock air box on there is no way you would have sucked up water unless you got it up to the bottom of the hood. It isn't like there is enough suction to create a pressure difference between the ground and the stock airbox, you have to have water right at the inlet. As far as paying for it, yes I believe the same way everyone else (the majority at least) does, in that you put on a cai knowing full well that you had the possibility of hydrolocking. It is unfortunate that it happened, but that should not be anybodies fault but your own.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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I never said it was anyone elses fault but mine. I know now and I will be riding with a sri. Lessons learned, and the demo of a cai not sucking up water from a bucket of water seems fishy to me.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by redralli
I never said it was anyone elses fault but mine. I know now and I will be riding with a sri. Lessons learned, and the demo of a cai not sucking up water from a bucket of water seems fishy to me.
With the bypass the CAI doesn't suck water up I'm almost tempted to put one in just for the rainy season.
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