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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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Total HP increase..

Somebody, nows what's the total HP increase for RA's whit All motor, let's say, piggy, CAI, clutch set, Flywheel, downpipe, catback or axcel back, lcd and something else that doesn't come to my mind right now!!

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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well a cluthc and flywheel dont really do much in terms of HP id hope for 30 at the wheels and youd be laughing

lcd???

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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yea, rrm dyno say at least 3 to the wheels /w piggy, cai and exhaust. The other stuff donest help MAKE power, but just frees up some loss to the wheels. so if you can put out 164 to the wheels at 87degrees, if we drop to 57degrees (easy this time of year) we can expect about a 4% increase. thats around 170HP. clutch and flywheel may free an extra 10 a the wheels, but dont bet on it. will prob just help rev faster more than anything. I assuem by LCD u mean LSD. adding tv's to your car usually does nothing for performance, but they are pretty cool however, the lsd is prob one of the best mods when u get power ths high as far as real performance (times) go. look what quaife did for the fwd srt-4! that car would blow /wout the lsd. downpipe and header (good luck) may also free up some lost power, but again, not much.

anyway, no one has gone that far (cluth+flywheel+lsd) in NA yet. i would like to see it. given the benifit of the doubt, say 185whp could be found NA /w current parts. worth it? probably not. but if plan on going turbo later, ur only out a CAI, downpipe, and ECU. you can sell those easy enuf =) everything else carrys over. how big is ur wallet?
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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Thanks, guys!!! well I was thinking in go All motor if the HP increase is enough, but considering this, I think is much money for the increasing power, I'll better save and go for the turbo!! what you guys think??

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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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get the parts that you can re-use in the turbo. catback, flywheel, LSD, motor mounts, suspension everything, wheels/tires. that way, you doing go from stock to super and when you do get the turbo, it makes it that much more worth it
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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turbo is realyl expensive ya a kit is 5000 bucks but thats only the start then you get greedy and want pistons rods, block sleeved, and 25 psi of boost it all starts adding up quick.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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well that does'nt really matter right now cause we don't have aftermarket pistons.rods,block sleeved, but i know what you mean. lol
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by blk-majik
yea, rrm dyno say at least 3 to the wheels /w piggy, cai and exhaust.
I'm going to assume you mean 30?! I didn't just spend $1200 for 3HP!!! LOL
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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ya it's 30hp from rrm website, with the piggy,cai,exhaust, lol
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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I think Rock said RRM was going to be putting out turbo pistons soon. How far behind can rods be?

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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 01:10 AM
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can't wait
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jerseyjap
ya it's 30hp from rrm website, with the piggy,cai,exhaust, lol
It's more like 20 after all the propaganda. Also, J.E. makes high and low compression pistons for the 4-cyl Eclipse engine. We have the same block, just a different head. I'm saving up to do everything at once. So far I have $5500. I need about 6500 more from my calculations to get everything done correctly.

Complete engine overhaul $8000, upgraded drivetrain $2000, tweaking $2000, the look on a EVO drivers face after handing them their *** with an All-Motor Ralliart

PRICELESS

P.S. I'm still search for decent rods.
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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Talk to Eagle or Crower. I'm not sure but I think they have piston/rods for the 2.4 eclipse.

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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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Yeah, totally expect to gain about 30 hp, but how much lb torque do you think the engine would also get?
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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im pretty sure that malvin at turbotech used crowler rods. give them a call and see if they cant reproduce a set if needed.

Originally Posted by MitsuRalliArt
It's more like 20 after all the propaganda. Also, J.E. makes high and low compression pistons for the 4-cyl Eclipse engine. We have the same block, just a different head. I'm saving up to do everything at once. So far I have $5500. I need about 6500 more from my calculations to get everything done correctly.

Complete engine overhaul $8000, upgraded drivetrain $2000, tweaking $2000, the look on a EVO drivers face after handing them their *** with an All-Motor Ralliart

PRICELESS

P.S. I'm still search for decent rods.
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