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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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The RSX's uses those at 10,500 rpms, maybe I'll give them a call.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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i want to revive this thread becuase i blew my turbo'd ralliart up and i need new pistons and rods... anybody have any info on where i can get these??? i know RRM has pistons, but are they the best for upping the boost on turbo and being reliable? and where can i get rods
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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i'd say about 20 hp increase.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralliart_on_LSD
i want to revive this thread becuase i blew my turbo'd ralliart up and i need new pistons and rods... anybody have any info on where i can get these??? i know RRM has pistons, but are they the best for upping the boost on turbo and being reliable? and where can i get rods
You can get the measurements for stock rods and call around. I imagine most piston/rod companies will have something that fits, or will make it.
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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I know you posted this a couple weeks back. I ran into this last night on the Forums. might help.


The only thing I don't like about the 4G69 is that the block height is 6mm shorter than the 4G64. This brings the block height back to the same as the EVO 4G63. The 4G69 uses the same length rods as the EVO with a longer stroke of 100mm. EVO pistons, even forged ones can be used in the 4G69. However, these pistons need to be 87mm. That's the only downside. The solution is to get stroker pistons for the EVO in 87mm. 87mm pistons for an EVO, however, are not easily sourced. They more than likely would have to be made custom by JE, Wiseco, Arias, etc.

4G69 uses 4G63 rod and crank bearings (old news)
4G69 uses 4G64, 4G94 valve guides and seals
4G69 uses the EVO timing belt tensioner which is aluminum, not cast iron
4G69 intake valve = 34mm (4G63 EVO = 34mm) May fit?
4G69 exhaust valve = 30.55mm (4G63 EVO = 30.5mm) May fit?
4G69 uses 4G64, 4G94 valve spring retainers
4G69 uses 4G63, 4G64 head bolts (can use 4G63 ARP head studs )
4G69 uses 4G63, 4G64 main bolts (can use 4G63 ARP main studs )
4G69 uses 4G63 EVO balance shafts (can use 4G63 EVO BS eliminator kit )

Nothing spectacular, I know. Every little bit helps though. Here's a good read on how Mitsubishi took a 4G64, modified it and called it a 4G69: Article (http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...14/253444.html). Lightened rods, lightened crank, lightened crank pulley, larger valves, shorter block height and other goodies. They did a very nice job and came out with a very nice engine.


This was all posted by senate6268

I Know that Eagle just released a 100mm stroker kit for the Evo/ Eclipse. Something you might want to look into.
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ar.../t-144200.html
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Alliedcries
I know you posted this a couple weeks back. I ran into this last night on the Forums. might help.


The only thing I don't like about the 4G69 is that the block height is 6mm shorter than the 4G64. This brings the block height back to the same as the EVO 4G63. The 4G69 uses the same length rods as the EVO with a longer stroke of 100mm. EVO pistons, even forged ones can be used in the 4G69. However, these pistons need to be 87mm. That's the only downside. The solution is to get stroker pistons for the EVO in 87mm. 87mm pistons for an EVO, however, are not easily sourced. They more than likely would have to be made custom by JE, Wiseco, Arias, etc.

4G69 uses 4G63 rod and crank bearings (old news)
4G69 uses 4G64, 4G94 valve guides and seals
4G69 uses the EVO timing belt tensioner which is aluminum, not cast iron
4G69 intake valve = 34mm (4G63 EVO = 34mm) May fit?
4G69 exhaust valve = 30.55mm (4G63 EVO = 30.5mm) May fit?
4G69 uses 4G64, 4G94 valve spring retainers
4G69 uses 4G63, 4G64 head bolts (can use 4G63 ARP head studs )
4G69 uses 4G63, 4G64 main bolts (can use 4G63 ARP main studs )
4G69 uses 4G63 EVO balance shafts (can use 4G63 EVO BS eliminator kit )

Nothing spectacular, I know. Every little bit helps though. Here's a good read on how Mitsubishi took a 4G64, modified it and called it a 4G69: Article (http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...14/253444.html). Lightened rods, lightened crank, lightened crank pulley, larger valves, shorter block height and other goodies. They did a very nice job and came out with a very nice engine.


This was all posted by senate6268

I Know that Eagle just released a 100mm stroker kit for the Evo/ Eclipse. Something you might want to look into.
Wow, awesome info. You learn something new everyday.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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nice work

Originally Posted by Alliedcries
I know you posted this a couple weeks back. I ran into this last night on the Forums. might help.


The only thing I don't like about the 4G69 is that the block height is 6mm shorter than the 4G64. This brings the block height back to the same as the EVO 4G63. The 4G69 uses the same length rods as the EVO with a longer stroke of 100mm. EVO pistons, even forged ones can be used in the 4G69. However, these pistons need to be 87mm. That's the only downside. The solution is to get stroker pistons for the EVO in 87mm. 87mm pistons for an EVO, however, are not easily sourced. They more than likely would have to be made custom by JE, Wiseco, Arias, etc.

4G69 uses 4G63 rod and crank bearings (old news)
4G69 uses 4G64, 4G94 valve guides and seals
4G69 uses the EVO timing belt tensioner which is aluminum, not cast iron
4G69 intake valve = 34mm (4G63 EVO = 34mm) May fit?
4G69 exhaust valve = 30.55mm (4G63 EVO = 30.5mm) May fit?
4G69 uses 4G64, 4G94 valve spring retainers
4G69 uses 4G63, 4G64 head bolts (can use 4G63 ARP head studs )
4G69 uses 4G63, 4G64 main bolts (can use 4G63 ARP main studs )
4G69 uses 4G63 EVO balance shafts (can use 4G63 EVO BS eliminator kit )

Nothing spectacular, I know. Every little bit helps though. Here's a good read on how Mitsubishi took a 4G64, modified it and called it a 4G69: Article (http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...14/253444.html). Lightened rods, lightened crank, lightened crank pulley, larger valves, shorter block height and other goodies. They did a very nice job and came out with a very nice engine.


This was all posted by senate6268

I Know that Eagle just released a 100mm stroker kit for the Evo/ Eclipse. Something you might want to look into.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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How much power do you think i make with CAI, Axel-back, pulley and piggy on an auto? Stock im putting down about 132-133whp
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