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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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Any piggyback = fail.
Not really true, but thanks for you lack of input.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Not really true, but thanks for you lack of input.
Fail. Thanks for your lack of reasoning behind your opinion.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394
Any piggyback = fail.
Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394
Thanks for your lack of reasoning behind your opinion.
Interestingly ironic.

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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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Interestingly ironic.
Hurr durr lets pay hundreds of dollars for a piece of crap hardware unit that can only do a FEW things at a **** poor level. Why buy a stupid little unit that temporarily overrides certain things on your ecu when you can just flash your ecu in the first place?

I feel sorry for anyone who bought one of those piggy backs.

Maybe Kroelav can use his vast amount of knowledge to help define and document different maps and subroutines for the ecu that are used in your ralliart. Oh wait, you probably don't even know what I am talking about. How ironic huh?
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394
Hurr durr lets pay hundreds of dollars for a piece of crap hardware unit that can only do a FEW things at a **** poor level. Why buy a stupid little unit that temporarily overrides certain things on your ecu when you can just flash your ecu in the first place?

I feel sorry for anyone who bought one of those piggy backs.

Maybe Kroelav can use his vast amount of knowledge to help define and document different maps and subroutines for the ecu that are used in your ralliart. Oh wait, you probably don't even know what I am talking about. How ironic huh?
Come on guys let's keep it civil , huh?

I agree with you that a reflash is better than the piggy but for us it has just recently been available. For the past 5 years the piggy was the only option we had so some/most tend to stick with what there's alot of reviews and posted accounts.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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Piggybacks have been the only option for us AT guys as noone has developed a reflash for us yet.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Theres not been an auto N/A reflash, but I'm working with Hackish right now on reflashing my Turbo Auto Ralliart. He's already finished with the actual reflash, we're just waiting for injectors and the map sensor to arrive. Hopefully this'll make it possible to do mail in reflashes for auto N/A ralliarts at a later date. We're not touching any code dealing with the actually transmission, as I mailed my ECU to them and he can't play around with such stuff unless my cars there. Regardless, its a pretty giant leap forward for auto owners.

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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394
Hurr durr lets pay hundreds of dollars for a piece of crap hardware unit that can only do a FEW things at a **** poor level. Why buy a stupid little unit that temporarily overrides certain things on your ecu when you can just flash your ecu in the first place?

I feel sorry for anyone who bought one of those piggy backs.

Maybe Kroelav can use his vast amount of knowledge to help define and document different maps and subroutines for the ecu that are used in your ralliart. Oh wait, you probably don't even know what I am talking about. How ironic huh?
While that is true about the piggy giving false MAP reads to "fake" the ecu into doing reads to allow it to manipulate the fuel maps, my question was based on what the piggy has gained, not necessarily in HP but overall. While your infinite wisdom has shown through your brilliant post. The fact still remains with people who own a RA that a flash is not yet available. So that being established, the question still remains if anyone has actually been able to prove any gains via a piggy.

Split Second actually provides serveral options to other platforms that have proven decent results for those who choose not to go the reflash route. So with that in hand, the basis for their attempt with RRM to create a piggy that may help facilitate a method to obtain a better fuel map and possible more gains, I applaud the attempt. I just haven't seen any hard numbers that illustrate proven number. Hence my question.

If you can reflash the ecu on an RA, I'd be all ears but if you can't then your statement is pretty worthless now isn't it. Thanks for playing along.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394
Hurr durr lets pay hundreds of dollars for a piece of crap hardware unit that can only do a FEW things at a **** poor level. Why buy a stupid little unit that temporarily overrides certain things on your ecu when you can just flash your ecu in the first place?

I feel sorry for anyone who bought one of those piggy backs.

Maybe Kroelav can use his vast amount of knowledge to help define and document different maps and subroutines for the ecu that are used in your ralliart. Oh wait, you probably don't even know what I am talking about. How ironic huh?
The only guy ive seen do it doesn't really offer it as an option for the rest of us. Hell i have yet to find someone who has had more than than just a brief PM exchange with the guy.

Unless you can provide a link of a company that can do a reflash or have some post of some informational substance then i suggest you stay out of the RA forums or i will make sure that you do not return here.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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The only guy ive seen do it doesn't really offer it as an option for the rest of us. Hell i have yet to find someone who has had more than than just a brief PM exchange with the guy.

Unless you can provide a link of a company that can do a reflash or have some post of some informational substance then i suggest you stay out of the RA forums or i will make sure that you do not return here.
Win
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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Please delete.

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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by soulesswarrior
Win

If anyone is interested I have 4 split second piggybacks I will gladly trade for something of equal value....sorry to be sarcastic but during the NA development of my car I used 4 different piggies and only one had any good lasting effect and that was the Haltech Miniceptor. Fyi I have one of those I will trade for something...

As far as the guy who can reflash goes he is not a vendor as of yet and is doing his best to adhere to the forum rules, that includes not selling through PM. It would stand to reason and somewhat logical to conclude (I have seen Star Trek once to often) that if there are a few reflashes out there then there is a way to contact him....
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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go GDS! lol
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GearDownSon
The only guy ive seen do it doesn't really offer it as an option for the rest of us. Hell i have yet to find someone who has had more than than just a brief PM exchange with the guy.

Unless you can provide a link of a company that can do a reflash or have some post of some informational substance then i suggest you stay out of the RA forums or i will make sure that you do not return here.
Go ahead and ask Kroelav what I sent him. I could care less to repeat myself to the peanut gallery that will just fly over their heads.

Ever thought about using an evo ecu? Since we've already got everything under the sun added to the roms and tons of maps & subroutines defined...

If you want to swing sticks around, do you know what a botnet is?
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394
Go ahead and ask Kroelav what I sent him. I could care less to repeat myself to the peanut gallery that will just fly over their heads.

Ever thought about using an evo ecu? Since we've already got everything under the sun added to the roms and tons of maps & subroutines defined...

If you want to swing sticks around, do you know what a botnet is?
I didn't claim once that i knew more than you concerning this. I just felt that coming in here and boldly stating that piggyback=fail then to go on about a reflash is just ignorant. I guess that flew over your head. No credible company offers this that i know of. The idea of sending my ecu to some random guy who says he knows what hes doing to crack our ecu isn't exactly my cup of tea. I think majority of the people here want a tested version at a reasonable price before they will pull the trigger.

As for the Evo ecu that very well could be a viable choice. Are the harnesses the same? Will the AWD be an issue? Im here learning just like everyone else but if you just going to come in here and talk down to everyone an offer no input then that is something i can swing my stick to
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