Actually you're on my ignore list so I didn't get your PM, and please don't try and threaten the forum or any of us with a botnet attack that you read about on google.

 

SyZyGy1394 is kinda right though... especially in regards to the ralliart. Piggybacks on our cars only work to an extent. You have to remember they work by attempting to "trick" the factory ECU to do what we want. Often that trickery isn't enough. It really sucks having to reset my piggyback weekly for my turbo just to properly maintain the tune, and it sucked when I had to do the very same with the N/A piggyback.

Sure the idea of a reflash is new for us, and obviously a lot of people are scared to send their ecu out to someone who claims they have the solution. The thing is I can recall reading a few people who have bought and tested the N/A reflash and were quite content with it. Yet it seems every time they attempt to speak up they are either ignored or it becomes an all out war of piggyback vs reflash. I think the evidence is there that it works if you look for it...

In regards to the auto reflash... It can't differ that much from the 5-speed reflash if you're intentions are only to modify fuel maps, make changes to the logic that controls CEL's, etc. Like I said earlier, we're working on my auto turbo reflash and have a high level of confidence it will work. Now I know I can't back this up just yet with truth, but shortly we'll have an answer. Any auto guys looking for such should really get in contact with OttRalliart05 or Hackish and look into it more before giving up on the reflash altogether.

 

I think we all understand that a re-flash is going to be a better solution over piggybacking, but as you and others have stated, re-flashes aren't the easiest thing to find and we don't exactly have a choice of reputable companies to choose from either. However, speaking of re-flashes, I was under the impression that a specific someone had one in development for an auto s/c ralliart?

 

No the reflash that is getting set up for the s/c is NOT an auto. There's several accounts of the reflash running , working and videos you just have to search them out.

 

i've been waiting for an auto reflash for like a year now however unless its something that I can get done by core charge or something it woudln't work for me as my RA is also my DD =/. hackish seems out of the question for me as shipping to and from canada is probably a week plus time it takes to reflash.

 

unfortunatly that has not been auto RA in this city I can track down I have even been looking for a used one at a dealer so I can take it for a "test drive"....

 

Rakiri you can have a core charge done easily that's the route I took

Nice modification to your signature and avatar Brent lol...

 

no idea what you are talking about....

I spoke to Hackish and he does have a AT core at the shop.

 

well irregardless. no tuner (except maybe Hackish) has been able to get a hold of an AT RA to even test out a reflash on. if there were one in chicago that would like to try it out I'd be down however I'd say its all up in the air right now

Even when the reflash takes place, I dont have a AF Gauge to be able to tell if the flash is holding up you know? I need to get one and a Oil Pressure gauge soon...

 

Glad we can actually get some decent discussion on this thread. Thanks guys.

I asked the question because I wanted some real reviews of people running this setup and what the results were. Success or Fail. Looking for test details.

I understand that PB can get fussy and have failures.

Has anyone had actual long term success running ANY piggy?

I can't believe that they are all "snake oil". RRM appears to have done enough R & D to produce some decent results.

Question to anyone who has used RRM piggy

Has anyone just connected it, just left it alone, tested for more than 3 months and reviewed it?

This Thread is on an '08 GTS which I was looking for on the 4G69.

 

Thats not exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned re-flash(verb). I meant as in you get a tactrix cable and write the rom on your ecu yourself with a laptop. You know, so you can actually tune the car. Log, adjust, flash, repeat. Not send it out to someone to just paste a cookie cutter tune on it.

If this cookie cutter tune that someone sells is supposed to work on so many cars, it has to be rather conservative timing wise and run pretty rich. Without a doubt you can make a decent amount of power more with a real tune.

 

IIRC we're unable to use the evo ecu like you previously suggested. I dont remember the reason why however I just remember we were unable to. I tried hooking up a tatrix cable to my car and attempt to read the ecu w/ evoscan and the program did not even recognize my ecu as nothing showed up on the screen.

 

I know what you meant. The ability to actually read/write the rom is a fairly new possibility to this generation of ralliart owners. I think most N/A ralliart owners currently buy the splitsecond piggyback with zero intention to modify the map supplied from rrm. My point was that for the same cost you can send out your ECU for this cookie cutter tune that'll give you the same bump in power as the piggyback without the negative side effects. The reflash will also add bonus's such as 2-step, increased rev limiter, etc which cannot be performed by the piggyback.

With turbo applications I can see the idea of a conservative cookie cutter tune somewhat wasteful, but you have to remember our cars do not come from factory with a turbo. Just getting these cars to run on the stock ecu with 4 larger injectors successfully has taken a great deal of time. A conservative tune with 4 larger injectors is by far safer than a 5th injector tune that uses a piggyback to control fuel and timing.

You are right though, using a tactrix cable to write the rom is the best option. Its just too bad our ECU isn't as well documented as the evo's.

 

This is just the thing, the do it your self software is close to being released BUT if Hackish cant have a car available then the definition and tune for that car cant be developed. I am having a very Difficult time finding an auto RA here in the city and I made a joke that I will find one on a car lot somewhere and take it for a test drive but really that's what is coming to. Hackish needs someone to step to the plate with a AT RA and do what blaire is doing with the 5th inj turbo.....

From what Hack said is you get the flash now and you will get a great deal on the software once it is released. He has tunes ready for 2004-2006 RA MT NA and 8psi turbo and now the RIPP SC 8psi pulley (to be released soon) and thanks to blair to stepping up he will have a kit to replace the 5th injector along with a flash. Again Hack needs a 2004-2006 Auto to develop...who will step up???

 

Brent,

What are we looking at for costs of the software package for those who have alreayd bought the reflash?