Modesty will win the Hearts of all...LOL Thanks aging for your help. I did not think you had a full copy of your stock ROM, if I knew you would have been the first person I would have gone to.

 

Well the exciting stuff is all to come. Defs are being built by a well known EvoM member. (Im assuming he would rather stay unnamed at this point) But soon as we have those we will play around and see what all we can get out of an NA tuned Auto. At this point Im just glad that we were able to iron out so many details and save future users of this method some headache. lol

And then as soon as my other car is finished and running I'll be parking the RA to undergo the Turbo transformation. Then we will get to build a boosted tune for the auto! Im just gunna try it all out! :P

 

great job guys...
hope it gets done before i get another RA...(unknown if it'll ever happen tho....lol)

 

reading and writing was never the problem...who's building the definitions? why is it such a big secret and why has it taken this long? If it's that easy, why wasn't this being done sooner...we wait years for hackish's solution, now we have it, and all of the sudden, these other guys come out of the wood work and seem to care about the first gen RA? what gives? Too little too late for me, but at least we have some variety...8 years later...

 

Why it is taking so long there are a few reasons. Need to test the procedures, learn about the software how to use it, terminologies are different than what I am used to. There are a few people involved in different time zones. Planning the website and brainstorming ideas. The main reason is to uncover as many issues as possible. Part of what i was testing was how many ways can in brick the ECU and how to recover it. What support will be needed and who will provide it, that just a small example of what I am doing.

 

Yea I have the same question. Why would hackish even spend the time to build UVtune if these other programs were able to connect flash ect. No one did there homework before starting that project years ago? Something just seems odd about this whole thing.

 

I dont know the answers to the why's I can only go by what I have seen. I have seen how the UVtune Fastworks program works with Crans, and I have had some hands on time with it with Truth. I am not knocking fastworks at all. It is an all in one package and that is great!

From what I have seen though. This method is much more open in its design. As I said in the novel I wrote on the last page I was capable of using ROMs from SEVERAL different Ralliarts (manual and auto) even an Eclipse ROM. The way this method writes to your ECU it completely wipes the old tune the old firmware and writes all new fresh data onto the computer. Just by looking at the file size of the tunes used in fastworks you can see that it is not the FULL ROM you are writing back to the ECU, only parts of it are written back which can lock you in because of firmware changes and things. This method rewrites all of that so any ROM from any model will work. Which is why I was able to run multiple manual ROMs on my Automatic ECU.

Again Im not knocking Fastworks at all. It is a good all in one package for the individual. But although this method uses 3 different programs it will be much more supported and usable by tuners all over the world that are familiar with ECUflash. And it will really open up the community much like what you see with the Evo community. I dont know why everyone jumped on board with the 4g69 scene now. Maybe since the EvoX has been out for 6 years now they are free to look into different avenues and projects now. Maybe Brent can explain that part a bit more for everyone. Either way I am glad it is here. If nothing else this is a new alternative tuning method to explore.

 

Yea I am not bashing your work or progress either Josh, Brent (Plus the list of others that contributed). I am happy we have options now and are not limited to one program. Just seems bizarre that no one tried this before, and especially before spending years writing a program to do it (UVTune).

Props tho man! Keep us updated as you progress!

 

I will leave this open as long as its stays informative but NOT for promotional purposes of any sort. You must become a registered vendor to sell reflashes here, failure to follow these rules will result in suspension from evom. Inform , reply, resolve issues, but don't hint at selling anything. Everyone has been warned.

 

The main reason it to give you guys another option. The big issue was no one was making XML Definitions for ECUFLASH, now there are and they are some of the biggest names in the business and on this site.

 

Brent who tuned your rally art ? Who did all the original tuning and r&d to be able to tune your ecu ? Where did you get all the tools to do this ? I really don't beleave you wanted to offer the community another option. I really beleave you wanted to take biz away from an old biz partner. So you got some reputable people from this community behind you to try and make yourself the go to reflash option. Is stayer one of your tuners ?

 

I wont get into a pissing match here your other post was deleted as it was not on topic and neither is this one. If you have some insite on this topic please would gladly discuss it.

 

No pissing match needed. But you should give credit to the person who deserves it and not claim it as your own. So who did all your research and devopment for your reflashing ? Who did the tuning and reflashing on your lancer ? Didn't you say you had to get a new ecu because of all the r&d that went into reflashing your lancer ? Why not share the background of your tuning exp so people can give proper judgment to who or how they have there car tuned and reflashed.

 

Sure, Hack was the first to develop this platform and the first to bring an all in one package to the 4g69 and 6g75 and with his knowledge he has done a fantastic job and he should be very proud of what he has done. He did all the tuning and R&D on my car. He purchased a ton of tools and programs to help him bring a complete tuning system to this platform and Community.

There are and will be pros and cons about both systems there always is, people will have to decide what system suits their needs.

About me: I am not a tuner and will not be tuning anyones vehicle nor a have the skill that Hack does and I can not do what he does. What I am is a project co-ordinator, I get a vision, come up with a plan and set the plan into action, precisely what I am doing here. For this project I have assembled some of the biggest names and Mitsubishi Guru's on this fourm and their reputations are well know throughout the world. If anyone wants to judge me on my tuning skills, let me be the first to judge, I suck at tuning therefore I don't do it. I know it and don't even try. If I did knowing my skills are not good that would be very reckless, stupid and dangerous. Look at the quote from Club4g:

See that last line? tells you something about my ego. I am no better than anyone on here.


Back to MMCFLASH/EVOSCAN and ECUFLASH Tuning for the Lancer Ralliart.

 

Tuning With Merlin:

Just WOW for starters. We started with a fresh ROM that was my year make and model. The definition that he created took me off guard and completely blew me away. There is so much more than Air, Fuel, Timing and MIVEC. Here are some of the Tables in the definition:

ECU Identification
ECU Options (turn on and off functions)
MUT Diagnostics Table
MUT Table
MIVEC (Temp and RPM enable)
Fuel Maps (High Low Octane and MIVEC)
Closed-Loop Control (Full control over closed loop tuning)
Fuel Cut Control
Fuel Injectors (There are 10 scalings alone) I think the most impressive is there is a map that will allow the tuner to change how fast the injectors "learn" I never knew that existed.
Spark Maps (you have to see this to believe it! 10 maps and scalings)
Ignition Timing (Again 10 maps in this category)
Ignition Coil (4 maps, Dwell Time, Correction factor)
Knock Control
Spark Shift Cut
Idle Control (20 Maps and scalers combined)
Traction Control (For those of you that have it)
Alternator Control
Purge Control
Air-Con Compressor Control
Check Engine Light Control (Set the Max on Time)
MAF Sensor Compensation
Throttle Control
EGR Control
Tuner Information (looks like you can add your name to the ROM)
And apparently more will be added when Merlin becomes more familiar with this ECU. My thoughts are how much more tuning tables do we need but it is exciting! Lets Keep in mind this is what has found in 2 weeks!!!!!!

My car, besides the fact it has NEVER has been this responsive, SMOOTH, and QUICK!! I was blown away from the Definition but that is nothing in comparison to the way the car responds. This turbo kit feels as if it was designed and tuned from the Factory! All Marketing and BS aside I am more than blown away.

The first ROM and Data Logging XML (He sent me his own XML of logging parameters customized for his liking) Result: Car idles rich Fuel Trims are not where they should be (more on this in a minute) Drives Well hit the AFR Target at Cruise bit rich under boost.

2nd ROM: NEW CAR!!!! after looking at the data and my old settings the Injectors were corrected. The Injector Data is not correct so with the first ROM Merlin was working with an unknown factor. The car starts better than ever feels amazing Hits all AFR Targets (after trims settle this should be a given) LTFT a bit off at -8.

3rd ROM: DONE. Well In my opinion it was or I thought it was???!!! According to Merlin its not perfect. New MUT Correction and spark maps were changed, result tires breaking loose in 4th gear on a regular basis. LTFT -0.8 (I put the 0 there so there is no confusion. LTFT was -8 now -.8)

4th ROM: Not sure what is left to do? I compared this rom to the last there are a few changes to timing, fuel and MUT Correction tables and Injector settings. I can see where he is going on this and to be honest I am excited.

Tuning with Merlin without a doubt best experience for me to date. My car is now fun to drive and I am finding excuses to drive the car, I am a driver I love to drive...now more so than ever!