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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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How can I get my car to handle better with out lowering the car, I change the rear Sway bar and it did improved , I want more , should I change the front sway bar? what do you guys suggest?
Better tires are on there way ................
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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you have many options... one of em being an LSD. That would really help handling and be my first choice. Only thing is they can be pretty expensive..
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Lower tiebar, rear strut bar. Thats about it, maybe stiffer front strut bar but dont expect handleing better than what you would get if you went with coil overs, or even springs. You just cant beat it. But yeah, those 3 things. . . i think thats really all there is you can do. . . without getting into the crazy susp. stuff like A arms and that stuff. Sounds like what your looking to avoid aye?
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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If you want to get rid of understeer (that's the RA's biggest fault I'm guessing), you need to stiffen up the rear of the cars suspension. If you put anything stiffer up front you'll only make the understeer worse. You can play around with tire pressure as well but it won't be as dramatic as stiffer rear swaybar, rear tie bar and possibly a rear strut bar. After that, you pretty much have to buy stiffer springs for the back. You don't have to lower it to stiffen them up btw. Hope this helps.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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you have many options... one of em being an LSD. That would really help handling and be my first choice. Only thing is they can be pretty expensive..
is that true!!!!
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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Yeah, but if your going to spend that kind of money, you might as well get some coil overs and all the bars first, then the LSD then you'll be in handle heaven. . .
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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well I'm planing to start racing the RA in track so I will take all of the tips I can get and research them , I had hear about the coil overs but I think they are high up there in price , does any one now if there is a company ho makes a front sway bar for are cars?
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by amg_dragon
If you want to get rid of understeer (that's the RA's biggest fault I'm guessing), you need to stiffen up the rear of the cars suspension. If you put anything stiffer up front you'll only make the understeer worse. You can play around with tire pressure as well but it won't be as dramatic as stiffer rear swaybar, rear tie bar and possibly a rear strut bar. After that, you pretty much have to buy stiffer springs for the back. You don't have to lower it to stiffen them up btw. Hope this helps.
I change the rear sway bar and I see the difrent in handeling I like this , but the problem I'm having now is that my rear end kiks out , I was told that the rear is to stif that is way so they told me to do the fallowing
Go back to stock and stiffing up the back 10 % more then the front is this true?
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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www.roadracemotorsports.com

They make the best stuff for our cars.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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Tein coilovers, the best you can do to your car. You can even adjust them to stock height if need be. Then the sway bar with perches, lower and upper tie bar and you're done. Simply put, that is the absolute best way to go.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dre 8472
you have many options... one of em being an LSD. That would really help handling and be my first choice. Only thing is they can be pretty expensive..
An LSD won't affect grip in corners, "not under power". An LSD gives you 2 wheel burn outs and way better acceleration in corners, prevents the inside tire from lighting up, but the limit of the tires is the same. The rear sway bar is the best single mod to do short of going with coilovers. A front sway bar will just make the car understeer worse.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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Tein coilovers are excellent street coilovers (we're a Tein dealer). Excellent bang for the buck performance. However if you want something for track use, you should consider the Zeal Function V6's. Simply put these coilovers are awesome - they rival the Ohlin external resevoirs I had in the R33 GTR. I wasn't a big fan of Zeal until one of the guys here threw a set of V6's on his EVO. At 12kg/10kg the handling is awesome - basically everything you'd expect from a set of coilovers geared toward heavy track use. But what impressed me the most was the ride on the street was no worse than stock. The increased monotube piston diameter and the custom valving really works wonders for ride quality. That being said they are a bit pricey... But you do get what you pay for.

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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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thank you all for the info , very interesteing Thank's
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Wait a second.....everyone is forgetting wheels and tires....that's where it all starts, right?

A bit wider and better tire than stock would be a nice start cause the stock ones absolutely suck the sausage!
Rear sway bar, sway bar perches, lower tie bar and rear strut bar......after those you gotta get into springs, coilovers, lsd.....
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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another idea maybe for a roll cage?? might help stiffin things up, and if you hit the wall you'll be safer.
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