my mitsu dealer told me that next year all base line lancers are going to have our sohc 2.4 liters mivec engine stock.......and their either dropping the OZ , or the ralliart from the production line....well see.

 

The older Sonatas had a 4G63 in them, same as the non-turbo DSMs. It doesn't surprise me that Hyundai is now using a 2.4L Mitsu motor.

 

Base RSX doesn't even have it on the intake side it's got dual runner in the intake manifold that opens up at 5300 or something. At 2300 it switches from 12 valve to 16 valve(thats considered the VTEC part of it )

So it has the I but the VTEC sure was missing

I crashed mine on purpose.....ok not really.....but i'm kind of glad I did because I got the RA instead.

I had no idea hyundai was using mitsu engines.

 

You sure? I was positive the base had intake VTEC and the S had intake and exhaust VTEC
Got a site that explains more about the RSX's VTEC?, doesn't sound like I understand it all

 

http://www.hondata.com/techk20general.html

 

Well, according to www.howstuffworks.com Vtec and I-vtec both control the valve timing on the intake side. The type S also has it on the exhaust side (which is why once the car's cam profile switch's over it has a VERY distinct sound).

I too was a RSX owner previous to the RA. Good car...but seriously lacked torque.


Anyways, back on topic. I would think w/ the new head being a DOHC it would respond a bit better to simple breathing mods as well as have a little more room for timing control. We can hope anyways.

 

You sure it wasn't the 420A... because I don't believe the 4G63 was ever released in a non-turbo.

 

Yes I'm sure. The only visible difference between the Sonata motor I saw and the motor in my non-turbo '93 Talon was the valve cover.

ALL the 2 liter non-turbo DSMs made from 90-94 had 4G63s in them. I would say there were more non-turbo 4G63s out there than turboed ones.

It wasn't until the 95 model year that they started putting the 420A into the non-turbo DSMs.

 

i looked up the specs on the sonata gl 2.4L 162HP @ 5800RPM 164TQ @4250RPM looks like it's not that strong, and i don't think the ralliart is going to have this motor any time because the new gs eclipse has the same motor as us.

 

I noticed that too, I drove an RSX for a few months, missed the torque that my RA had.

Good link adamra.

 

Skimmed through a lot of this post, but just to reiterate, the new MIVEC will be SOHC, according to everything I have read.

4G63 was offered in NA trim and some people say the Hyundai valve covers are sexier than the Mitsu ones.

 

This direct competition has an extra tenth of a liter and it also requires premium. This engine is anything but advanced if you ask me. The Ralliart has the better engine of the two until Nissan pulls their heads out of their ***.

 

If you go to StreetFire, you will find the video of Hyundai Excel with 4g63 (I think) and spanking a viper truck

Here is an Excel featured on SSC.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...11scc_hyundai/


Here is an Elantra
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/305330

Basically older 4g63s are swapable on Hyundai cars.

 

Look what I found:

New DOHC 2.4L Dodge Caliber Engine

One of the engine choices for the U.S. market will include: a DOHC top-of-the-line 2.4-liter with DVVT (intake and exhaust).
Debuting in the 2007 Dodge Caliber, the Chrysler Group World Engine family is targeted to improve fuel efficiency by five percent compared with the engines they replace -- rivaling the best four-cylinder engines in the world.

New DOHC 2.4L MIVEC Engine


The new 4-cylinder 2.4-liter MIVEC engine employs MMC's proprietary intake and exhaust cylinder head port design and intake/exhaust systems to deliver best-in-class output power and torque. The engine uses MMC's proprietary MIVEC variable valve timing system, a double-wall stainless exhaust manifold and a high-performance catalytic converter to deliver outstanding mileage and emissions performance.

As a result, the new powerplant achieves a more than 5% increase in output over the current 4G69-type 2.4-liter MIVEC engine.

My Take: Do they look similar? Do they sound similiar? The new caliber will have a rebadge 2.4L DOHC MIVEC motor with LIFT on both intake and exhaust.

P.S. I don't care about the new dodge, I just want that new MIVEC motor! Now that it will apply a true LIFT phase cars like the GTS or Type-S will no longer be a problem.

Torque + Lift = OWNED

 

I really hate dodge.